Do Solfeggio Frequencies heal and should we not redefine the prime numbers?

[jancivil]

@one_who_tugs_donkey: I've re-read the thread and you're right. Nobody has stated outright that there is definitely no connection between sound waves and how they might affect living material (which is the crux of the conversation) but the mockery of these ideas doesn't bring any value to the conversation.

And your kneejerk personal criticisms bring exactly what value?

It’s rubbish on the very face of it, and if one takes half a minute to google “Solfeggio Frequencies” one will (unless one is a singularly uncritical person, and the quality of >your “contributions” might have one wondering if this isn’t a distinct possibility) have seen it’s purely a religious notion to begin with, so any scientific endeavor seeking to affirm it is going to be fatally flawed… (Shall we examine some or all the various logical fallacies this entails? Hint: circular to an impossible premise.)

… let alone that the subject has naught to do with music whatsoever.

[jancivil]

‘[the] connection between sound waves and how they might affect living material is the crux of the conversation’
sez you. Sure, this was the “conversation“ you wanted, as it suits having a go at people, to impugn their integrity as you impute a mere intent to mock what they failed to understand.
TL/DR - Cool story, bro.

“the mockery of these ideas” - <Specific frequencies have specific effects on a body per se, according to numerology from The Bible somehow> comprises the actual subject matter, which again a cursory search - which was subsequently provided for you, but no, stick to your guns - will have sorted.

[jancivil]

The first question that comes up here, for me as a musician (& before we should even begin to take someone’s calculations as anything), is why is this called “Solfeggio Frequencies”?

Why not take this travesty into actual Music Theory land then.

Within a few seconds search appears this: “The solfeggio frequencies are part of the olden six-tone scale believed to have incorporated sacred music, inclusive of the famous and beautiful Gregorian Chants.”

RuhRoh. I know specifically what the reference is to. The con is busted.

guidonian hand.JPG

In medieval music, the Guidonian hand was a mnemonic device used to assist singers in learning to sight-sing. Some form of the device may have been used by Guido of Arezzo, a medieval music theorist who wrote a number of treatises, including one instructing singers in sightreading. The hand occurs in some manuscripts before Guido's time as a tool to find the semitone; it does not have the depicted form until the 12th century. Sigebertus Gemblacensis in c. 1105–1110 did describe Guido using the joints of the hand to aid in teaching his hexachord. The Guidonian hand is closely linked with Guido's new ideas about how to learn music, including the use of hexachords, and the first known Western use of solfège.

[Shabdahbriah]

I lost it with: "Guido of Arezzo", and the "The Guidonian hand" (puppet). Thank you

Obviously Guido was 'channeling' Pythagoras, who it's said (in a really really obscure napkin note written in secret code that he only shared with his inner-most circle, and some nomadic camel breeder named 'Chuck') had used advanced hand gestures to kinetically convey the eternal nature of the foundation upon which he based his theorem.

[jancivil]

[jancivil]

I got kicked out of Music History for that kind of attitude.
Here’s one: Clemens non Papa. this is before Maury Povich tho

[Shabdahbriah]

Gee, I can't imagine you being a "trouble maker". {aside} I started using 'Guido' as my go-to comic relief victim/scapegoat name as the result of some slapstick-ish B&W 50's films bumbling though lovable stereotypical mobster character. Might have even been a three stooges skit. Followed (and appropriately modified) much later by 'Father Guido Sarducci'.

Sooo, regarding the claim: "The solfeggio frequencies are part of the olden six-tone scale believed to have incorporated sacred music, inclusive of the famous and beautiful Gregorian Chants."

Now, I happen to love Gregorian Chants, and assuming the lowercase 'olden' was not a typo of a proper name, whether a person or of some tribal/cultural/pagan/religious cultist origins, but meant to simply elude to the solfeggio frequencies being part of something "Ancient" (new age buzz-word, which implies "advanced" [knowledge/technology] "hidden" from the masses by *the powers what be*, according to The History channel) and being so, makes it inherently "sacred" (new age buzz-word for all things really-for-reals kept from the masses, according to a "psychic" wanna-be influencer, and GHIA.com), because someone(s) "believes" it is, so it must be... and yet, I do not recall hearing any that were constrained by, nor radically adhered to this specifically solfeggio advanced Italian hand gesture formula, though the 'tones' are certainly incorporated in the 'words' intonations :

solfeggio.png

... curious.

[jancivil]

another quick sign of a problem is “It’s believed that…”, in anything someone wants to demonstrate for real or base a thing on like it’s real. It’s called weasel words. Obviously compounded by ‘in the Bible’, which isn’t acceptable as fact. And they fit argument to antiquity fallacy in there as well.

Guidonian hand was a technique which was superseded by solfege using seven syllables for seven tones. The “hexachord” use for the same basic 7 was just weird and flawed, in that once the specific range was exceeded the hand must mutate.
Then, already pointed out, frequencies of tones weren’t known in ‘antiquity’. Those of us who might’ve studied a thing or two somewhere along the line will recognize such glaring problems without too much trouble. So a guy charging in here on the attack is doubly offensive for the cluelessness, there’s the arrogance here.

[jancivil]

I was alarmed just to see “solfeggio” & “frequencies” combined (confounded) in a single term. It’s Fixed Do (antiquated) to an impossible extreme, I mean WTF. So, Google, and it’s the actual sense of the origin of this shite.

[vurt]

solfeggio.png

... curious.

that looks like a major scale on a theremin.

[Shabdahbriah]

solfeggio.png

... curious.

that looks like a major scale on a theremin.

Uh huh... and this one could well argue on the appropriate blogs/forums,

guidonian hand.JPG

is actually believed by 'experts' in the field of expert stuff, to be a "magic" (new age buzz word for "Ooo-aaah") formula written upon the hands, with 'secret-sauce' ink, that can only be obtained by boiling the left nad of a prepubescent yak during a lunar eclipse, in olive oil prepared seven years in advance by a Vestal virgin named Maud (or a direct descendant), and that when spoken aloud as it is applied, in the correct order (as written), and in the correct cadence in accordance with the 'sacred cadence number' 432, commands the one exposed to its gesticulations to make a pizza while wearing a fez, and doing the 'mash-potato' dance.

[Shabdahbriah]

..

[donkey tugger]

That magical glove would fit me (perhaps tis akin to the glass slipper.. ). I thought it was 'Solfeggio', not 'sausage fingers'?

[donkey tugger]

I'm thinking if I get said glove, and tune the 12 string to 432hz (this part may take some time..), then I could become some manner of healing guru. I will test on my piles.

[jancivil]

Well, A = 432 is iirc just under 32 cents down from yer usual 440.