KVR Audio

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:08 pm

DJErmac wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:15 am Rapid is super powerful. It can do sampling, multisampling, resampling, granular, etc. There are sounds you simply can’t do with Hive.

Rapid is powerful with many features you describe, but it's not impossible to recreate the sounds so they exist in Hive because it has support for wavetables. It's more to do with the ease with which to create the sounds you want to create. So for anyone looking to do that sort of thing, Rapid would be an obvious choice. The counter-points would be in whether Hive 2 is able to provide more control over the shaping and playback of wavetable-based sounds than what Rapid provides and the ease with which to do so.

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:18 pm

Hive2 is capable of more poetic stuff:

In Hive2, the bees are busy
Working hard from dawn till dusk
Producing honey, oh so sweet
A Hive of industry, they bustle and bust

DJErmac · Post by **DJErmac** » Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:19 pm

THE INTRANCER wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:08 pm
DJErmac wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:15 am Rapid is super powerful. It can do sampling, multisampling, resampling, granular, etc. There are sounds you simply can’t do with Hive.
Rapid is powerful with many features you describe, but it's not impossible to recreate the sounds so they exist in Hive because it has support for wavetables. It's more to do with the ease with which to create the sounds you want to create. So for anyone looking to do that sort of thing, Rapid would be an obvious choice. The counter-points would be in whether Hive 2 is able to provide more control over the shaping and playback of wavetable-based sounds than what Rapid provides and the ease with which to do so.

Of course there are sounds you can do with both, don’t act fool, we all know an oscillator is an oscillator, but how could we compare something coming from Rapid with something coming from Hive2 ?

Rapid can produce a whole song at once using its multilayers and multisamples. Hive2 can’t do this. Because it’s not meant to do that.

Hive2 is perfect as Hive2. I love it and the sounds that are coming from it are useful for me daily, and I use Rapid every day also, it’s one of my favourite synths. They simply can’t compare : pepper and garlic when cooking. I love both.

Objective comparison would lead to Hive2 being considered as less powerful because it’s true that Rapid is a powerhouse as it proposes features that Hive2 doesn’t have, and I don’t accept that : Hive2 a great synth. This makes no sense to me, sorry. Don’t make a runner and a boxer compete.

DJErmac · Post by **DJErmac** » Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:29 pm

What’s next ? DX7 vs Korg M1 ? Seriously...

When you need one of them, you simply use one of them. Talking for nothing here, sorry my friend, just my humble opinion...

No offense anyway, we’re just talking on a thread. Don’t take it more seriously than you should. We’re having a lot of fun with extrapolation of your base idea. Mocking is not the purpose.

Have a happy new year bro !

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:32 pm

I've made a little video to highlight the new visual effects included in a very recent update to Rapid. It's rather cool, and whilst Hive does have something similar, Rapid v1.8.7 takes things a bit further.

And oh wait... isn't that one of the interfaces I gave away ? I'm going to have some pie and burgers, cause making videos make me hungry.

ramseysounds · Post by **ramseysounds** » Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:13 am

WOW We'll be comparing Hive 2 with Hive 2 next

Lbdunequest · Post by **Lbdunequest** » Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:06 am

We need a topic comparing The Intrancer with Rapid

DJErmac · Post by **DJErmac** » Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:09 am

Lbdunequest wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:06 am We need a topic comparing The Intrancer with Rapid

Fannon · Post by **Fannon** » Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:28 am

ramseysounds wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:13 am WOW We'll be comparing Hive 2 with Hive 2 next

Already done: viewtopic.php?t=591524

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:29 am

Lbdunequest wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:06 am We need a topic comparing The Intrancer with Rapid

Well I can talk, but I'm not sure how well Rapid can do speech resynthesis, but it would be interesting to explore. In fact let's look... it's to be noted that Hive can actually talk as well apparently.

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:13 am

Besides refining my rather long opening essay to read better, I've added a screenshot above it showing Rapid using the Reshader utility, and for anyone wondering, it doesn't work with Hive 2. It's all rather fun to play with as it slowly pulsates as if you have just walked into a nightclub in Amsterdam.

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:53 am

The Rapid embassador announces Rapid repeately and tries to woo us into his rad rabbit hole.

ramseysounds · Post by **ramseysounds** » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:17 am

Fannon wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:28 am
ramseysounds wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:13 am WOW We'll be comparing Hive 2 with Hive 2 next
Already done: viewtopic.php?t=591524

you clearly missed my irony

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:29 pm

Worth highlighting as Rapid had the most recent of updates between these two synths.
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December 23rd 2022
1.8.7 -
NEWEST
Additions:
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Quick import for oscillator content drag and drop.

Changes:

Oscillator source browser now opens the page of the selected content.
Hold command or control key during quick import to choose multi-sample method.
Warning message on drag and drop import if no user library exists.

Fixes:

Initial UI scaling on non auto-scale was doubled in some DAWs.
Use scaled assets and texture filtering to reduce magnification artifacts if the OS uses additional dpi scaling.
Edit Preset Info in 1.8.6. was not working correctly in multiple instances.
Various VST3 compatibility updates.

Visual:

More performant voicing display waveform drawing with GPU renderer.
Redraw functions are now triggered by monitor vblank.

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Additions:

VST3 Support.
Preset Browser: Right arrow key loads the currently selected preset.
Routing: Insert/Remove Routing Entries.
OpenGL Capability Test, to get information about the used graphics driver, in case of problems with GPU Renderer mode.

Changes:

Removed framerate options. This is now adaptive.
Lastly saved or loaded preset locations are now memorized seperately.
Moved the macro +Route drag icon to the right of the knob to avoid overlap.
Changed preset information and MIDI import dialogs to internally managed dialogs.
Preset browser information is only shown when hovering over entries and holding ctrl or command key.

Fixes:

Tooltips setting was not saved.
Presets with # character in their name couldn't be marked as favorite.
Reduced OpenGL surface slowdown in DAWs that couldn't handle multiple open accelerated UI instances at the same time.
Improved Glitch time jump declick.
Adjusted sample accuracy of Glitch sequences for high PPQ values.
Improved smoothing for Multiband Saturator gain modulatiom.
Routing selection behavior on load, resize and reopen.
Don't grab keyboard focus on layer button label click.
Various DAW compatibility additions.

Visual:

Dynamic colour tint for editor windows and source browser theme.
HDR bloom effect added. Normal and Fancy mode.

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:54 am

THAT changes everything!

Comparing Hive 2 With Rapid 1.8.7