Advanced tutorial for Flex Pitch?

[lightsfadelow]

I’m new(ish) to Logic, having switched from Cubase Pro and I’m having a little trouble making the leap from VariAudio to Flex Pitch. I get the basics, but there are some things I’m struggling with. I’m wondering if someone can recommend an advanced tutorial on the subject that will cover all the tips and tricks.

For example:

1. While I can glue or cut 2 markers, I can’t figure out how to change the start/end a marker to cover more or less of the underlying audio.
2. When selecting a group of markers and editing a parameter like Vibrato, the edits are relative to the previous values of that parameter for each of the markers and I can’t find a way to select a bunch of markers and set them all to an absolute value regardless of their previous value.
3. There isn’t a “straighten” slider, so instead I need to edit pitch drift at the beginning and end and vibrato to get the same effect as VariAudio’s straighten. Are there any shortcuts to achieving a more autotuned sound?
4. Time quantize is dependent on how the region is identified but (see number one) I can’t seem to define the region differently other than cut and glue.

All of these questions from just an hour or two, so I’m sure I have more that I haven’t yet discovered. Hence my hope for a great in-depth advanced tutorial somewhere.

[xbitz]

I've seen there is a dedicated one in the Logic library
LOGIC PRO X 108
Flexing Vocals: Time and Pitch

https://www.macprovideo.com/library/application/logic

[lightsfadelow]

I've seen there is a dedicated one in the Logic library
LOGIC PRO X 108
Flexing Vocals: Time and Pitch

https://www.macprovideo.com/library/application/logic

From looking at the table of contents, I'm concerned this is going to tell me what I already know and not answer my open questions if someone has paid for this can say it covers all I want, I'll happily shell out the $30...

[CinningBao]

Hey, I'll have a go.

1. Yeah, the 'bars' represent what Logic could detect as tonal; Flex Pitch separates the 'bars' with gaps which are either silent or sibilant.
- you can add your own 'bar' at the end of a bar by using the Pencil tool in the edit window. drag away from the point you want to add a bar up to, or after, and let go - the ghost bar will appear. but you might need to pull the bar you created down to the bottom of the piano roll so it sounds right.

2. Unfortunately this isn't possible, not with any of the Flex Pitch parameters I believe; it's just the way they designed it.

3. Again, I don't believe there is a way to force the hard-tune stepping sound you're after. Whether this is a limitation of the engine they're designing the Flex Pitch thing with, or just the way they chose to employ it; we'll never know.

4. Quantising the Flex Pitch bars might work better for you if you fill them out with the pencil tool to the beat edges, or whatever you need.

So, yeah, Flex Pitch has it's weaknesses but can suit many folks pitch adjustment needs. I've not used Vari-Audio but isn't it more akin to Melodyne? Might be worth investing in that.. or demoing the alternatives. I find Flex Pitch can start misbehaving a lot depending on the quality of the recording, the style of singing and the quality of that performance. More expensive tools tend to be a bit more forgiving.

hope some of that helps

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and try the logicprohelp.com site for the best support

[lightsfadelow]

Thank you. VariAudio is similar to Flex Pitch in the way it’s employed (it’s a feature of the in-app audio editor) but, to me, it seems to be a better implementation. I’m sure Melodyne is the best, but I do really like the nondestructive built in model.