DIVA and REPRO 1 & 5

[hebex]

even based on the hardware, yours is an opinion.

So there is no objective truth about this?

not without actual proof.
can you provide this?

As I said it´s the other way around. Those who make the fantastic claim that a software can perfectly emulate a hardware analog synthesizer, are the ones to produce the proof about it.

Let anyone who make that claim for example recreate the P5/10-sounds made in this video perfectly, and we´ll see. Will the Repro have all the same oomph and pleasing tonal nuances as the P5/10? I´m all ears to find out!

[Lbdunequest]

even based on the hardware, yours is an opinion.

So there is no objective truth about this?

not without actual proof.
can you provide this?

As I said it´s the other way around. Those who make a fantastic claim that a software can perfectly emulate a hardware analog synthesizer, are the ones to produce the proof about it.

Let anyone who make that claim recreate the sounds made for example in this video perfectly, and we´ll see. I´m all ears!

I played with many analog synths and have 1 which is not prophet. But repro sounds as analog like my analog synth. Is it like prophet rev 3? Dont know that but there are many people who own prophet and say its convincing. Having expierience amd owning analog synth i tend to believe it. Repro sounds amazing and its perfect the way it is even if it turns out its not 100% perfect but 99% like real deal.

I think there is too much effort to make comparisons and recreations to some analog snob i dont care about anymore.

[hebex]

even based on the hardware, yours is an opinion.

So there is no objective truth about this?

not without actual proof.
can you provide this?

As I said it´s the other way around. Those who make a fantastic claim that a software can perfectly emulate a hardware analog synthesizer, are the ones to produce the proof about it.

Let anyone who make that claim recreate the sounds made for example in this video perfectly, and we´ll see. I´m all ears!

I played with many analog synths and have 1 which is not prophet. But repro sounds as analog like my analog synth. Is it like prophet rev 3? Dont know that but there are many people who own prophet and say its convincing. Having expierience amd owning analog synth i tend to believe it.

I think there is too much effort to make comparisons and recreations to some analog snob i dont care about anymore.

Oh, why, don´t give up so easily now. Why don´t you show me what the repro 5 is made of, come on.

[Urs]

even based on the hardware, yours is an opinion.

So there is no objective truth about this?

The objective truth is that unfortunately only very few people have access to the original reference hardware. Apparently, you are not among those. Hence, all comparisons you allegedly ever made are objectively rubbish. (Meaning, Repro is closer to its reference hardware than another specimen of the same brand that we checked out)

I'm also pretty sure that a "SOUNDWISE" perfect recreation of a vintage synth would break. There's your answer. I also never claimed what you seem to suggest I claimed, hence I take a little bit of offence here, not just because you seem to imply that I'm a cult leader who lies to people.

[Lbdunequest]

even based on the hardware, yours is an opinion.

So there is no objective truth about this?

not without actual proof.
can you provide this?

As I said it´s the other way around. Those who make a fantastic claim that a software can perfectly emulate a hardware analog synthesizer, are the ones to produce the proof about it.

Let anyone who make that claim recreate the sounds made for example in this video perfectly, and we´ll see. I´m all ears!

I played with many analog synths and have 1 which is not prophet. But repro sounds as analog like my analog synth. Is it like prophet rev 3? Dont know that but there are many people who own prophet and say its convincing. Having expierience amd owning analog synth i tend to believe it.

I think there is too much effort to make comparisons and recreations to some analog snob i dont care about anymore.

Oh, why, don´t give up so easily now. Why don´t you show me what the repro 5 is made of, come on.

I just dont care about you so i rather give up. Your opinion wount impact my joy using Repro and claiming it sounds analog.

[Urs]

Also, YT videos that don't use the dry source are a pet peeve for comparisons. Sorry, pass.

[pdxindy]

No, I didn´t rave against computer based music production per se at all.

I just call those out who claim that the mentioned VST-instruments of today are -- SOUNDWISE -- perfect digital replicas of the original analog synthesizers.

Are you perhaps among those, Urs?

You're just here to troll... every post is sarcastic and rude and looking for a fight.

[hebex]

even based on the hardware, yours is an opinion.

So there is no objective truth about this?

The objective truth is that unfortunately only very few people have access to the original reference hardware. Apparently, you are not among those.

Yes, I was. I owned both for about a year and a half and compared the two very often.

Hence, all comparisons you allegedly ever made are objectively rubbish. (Meaning, Repro is closer to its reference hardware than another specimen of the same brand that we checked out)

I'm also pretty sure that a "SOUNDWISE" perfect recreation of a vintage synth would break. There's your answer.

I also never claimed what you seem to suggest I claimed, hence I take a little bit of offence here, not just because you seem to imply that I'm a cult leader who lies to people.

Sorry if you take offense, but you called me a troll and I then pointed out that one apparently is only allowed to regard Repro 5 as SOUNDWISE a perfect digital replica, or in your opinion one should otherwise stay out of this forum. You haven´t then assured me otherwise.

So would you tell Dave Smith (of Sequential), if he was alive, which he sadly is not anymore, to his face, that his Prophet 5/10 synthesizer is now SOUNDWISE perfectly replicated in the Repro 5 software, is that what you are saying?

[hebex]

So there is no objective truth about this?

not without actual proof.
can you provide this?

As I said it´s the other way around. Those who make a fantastic claim that a software can perfectly emulate a hardware analog synthesizer, are the ones to produce the proof about it.

Let anyone who make that claim recreate the sounds made for example in this video perfectly, and we´ll see. I´m all ears!

I played with many analog synths and have 1 which is not prophet. But repro sounds as analog like my analog synth. Is it like prophet rev 3? Dont know that but there are many people who own prophet and say its convincing. Having expierience amd owning analog synth i tend to believe it.

I think there is too much effort to make comparisons and recreations to some analog snob i dont care about anymore.

Oh, why, don´t give up so easily now. Why don´t you show me what the repro 5 is made of, come on.

I just dont care about you so i rather give up. Your opinion wount impact my joy using Repro and claiming it sounds analog.

Nobody said it doesn´t sound analog. But does it perfectly replicate the original hardware? That is the question very few here in KvR apparently is comfortable to hear and discuss.

[DJErmac]

Also, YT videos that don't use the dry source are a pet peeve for comparisons. Sorry, pass.

I sincerely hope that some day you’ll relax and accept that most people are @sses. @sses trying to appear smart@sses.

I read mostly praise about your products and since you seem offended about reviews coming from another dimension.

Some people love some of your products, some don’t... I don’t like Diva, I love Hive, I’m waiting for Zebra3... Some people think they know when they’re just learning, some people think they know and they’re working on $19 speakers... Just don’t give a s#it Mister Urs.

[pdxindy]

I just dont care about you so i rather give up. Your opinion wount impact my joy using Repro and claiming it sounds analog.

KVR is better when you just put trolls on ignore

[hebex]

even based on the hardware, yours is an opinion.

So there is no objective truth about this?

The objective truth is that unfortunately only very few people have access to the original reference hardware. Apparently, you are not among those.

Yes, I was. I owned both for about a year and a half and compared the two very often.

Hence, all comparisons you allegedly ever made are objectively rubbish. (Meaning, Repro is closer to its reference hardware than another specimen of the same brand that we checked out)

I'm also pretty sure that a "SOUNDWISE" perfect recreation of a vintage synth would break. There's your answer.

I also never claimed what you seem to suggest I claimed, hence I take a little bit of offence here, not just because you seem to imply that I'm a cult leader who lies to people.

Sorry if you take offense, but you called me a troll and I then pointed out that one apparently is only allowed to regard Repro 5 as SOUNDWISE a perfect digital replica, or in your opinion one should otherwise stay out of this forum. You haven´t then assured me otherwise.

So would you tell Dave Smith (of Sequential), if he was alive, which he sadly is not anymore, to his face, that his Prophet 5/10 synthesizer is now SOUNDWISE perfectly replicated in the Repro 5 software, is that what you are saying?

Anyway, Urs, I guess I´ve got some points across here so far in what has been intended as constructive criticism, so let me show some humility now; we may not agree right here and now that the Repro 5 is 100% there, but you have my great respect for the achievements in the VST-domain by you and the U-he team, and, again, I surely hope you and others in time get there concerning the Prophet and other great analog synthesizers. I hear rumors of new developments like CLAP, but haven´t really got into it, perhaps/hopefully I´ll in time have get back to you and others and congratulate you for achieving 100%. Peace.

[vurt]

you seem to imply that I'm a cult leader

can i be the leader?
ive got a beard and a robe and wild staring eyes, id make an awesome cult leader

[liquidsound]

Not a troll. Not a qualified hearing creature. Certainly never owned any hardware claimed in “its” posts…
But slightly gifted to provoke the real humans.

Elon! I found a bot!!!

[RugerioDelStereo]

hebex, you make your claims in a topic about Diva and Repro. Why is it up to others to disprove your claims?