If you map the LFO envelope to the LFO rate in Destination B, it somehow modulates the rate in inverted fashion. In other words, when the envelope rises, the LFO rate decreases rather than increases, and vice-versa. Using a sufficiently large Amount setting for the LFO and sufficiently long attack/decay times for the LFO envelope helps in realizing this.
Also, setting the Dest B amount slider to -100% does not produce the correct (i.e. inverted) behavior expected from a simple sign mistake.
Can anyone replicate and confirm?
Edit: I may have figured it out: the LFO is self-modulating (it’s not just the LFO envelope modulating the destination- it’s the LFO modulating the destination under the influence of its envelope). Hence, the modulation becomes more and more “lopsided,” since when the LFO value is high, the rate increases momentarily, but when it reaches a low value in the waveform, the rate decreases and maintains that low value (which corresponds to a low rate) until it flip-flops. Since the attack of the envelope increases it’s amount, higher and higher LFO values are produced, which result in higher rates. This truncates the effect of the high portion of the LFO (e.g. higher pitch for Dest A routed to an oscillator) to shorter snd shorter values. I was mistaking this effect for longer LFO cycles, but the cycles are, in fact, uneven (longer at the ‘bottom’ portion of the LFO than at the ‘top’).
Confirm bug in Ableton Operator
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Confirm bug in Ableton Operator
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If you map the LFO envelope to the LFO rate in Destination B, it somehow modulates the rate in inverted fashion. In other words, when the envelope rises, the LFO rate decreases rather than increases, and vice-versa. Using a sufficiently large Amount setting for the LFO and sufficiently long attack/decay times for the LFO envelope helps in realizing this.
Also, setting the Dest B amount slider to -100% does not produce the correct (i.e. inverted) behavior expected from a simple sign mistake.
Can anyone replicate and confirm?
Edit: I may have figured it out: the LFO is self-modulating (it’s not just the LFO envelope modulating the destination- it’s the LFO modulating the destination under the influence of its envelope). Hence, the modulation becomes more and more “lopsided,” since when the LFO value is high, the rate increases momentarily, but when it reaches a low value in the waveform, the rate decreases and maintains that low value (which corresponds to a low rate) until it flip-flops. Since the attack of the envelope increases it’s amount, higher and higher LFO values are produced, which result in higher rates. This truncates the effect of the high portion of the LFO (e.g. higher pitch for Dest A routed to an oscillator) to shorter snd shorter values. I was mistaking this effect for longer LFO cycles, but the cycles are, in fact, uneven (longer at the ‘bottom’ portion of the LFO than at the ‘top’).
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