Am I the only one who doesnt like/has no use for Soothe2?!
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 757 posts since 10 Mar, 2020
Am I the only one who thinks the plugin is massivly overpriced? I tried to use it several times but using FabFilter Q3 in dynamic mode is faster to me than dialing in Soothe2 in a way so it doesnt cut important frequencies.
For deessing I use a dedicated De-Esser.
I dont get the point why people love it so much. In mastering I do at least have use for Gullfoss bc it makes stuff better but faster in contrast to Soothe2…
Am I alone. Just curious
For deessing I use a dedicated De-Esser.
I dont get the point why people love it so much. In mastering I do at least have use for Gullfoss bc it makes stuff better but faster in contrast to Soothe2…
Am I alone. Just curious
- KVRAF
- 9788 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
I wouldn’t use it as a Q3 (or any EQ) replacement. I also wouldn’t use it as a replacement for something like Pro-DS.
Soothe 2 is there to tame ultra harsh resonances and it really should be transparent, unless it’s being pushed to extremes.
Also they do Black Friday sales, and I think maybe a summer sale?
Soothe 2 is there to tame ultra harsh resonances and it really should be transparent, unless it’s being pushed to extremes.
Also they do Black Friday sales, and I think maybe a summer sale?
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 757 posts since 10 Mar, 2020
Im faster and more on point removing the harsh frequencies with dynamic eq, thats what I meant.elxsound wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:54 pm I wouldn’t use it as a Q3 (or any EQ) replacement. I also wouldn’t use it as a replacement for something like Pro-DS.
Soothe 2 is there to tame ultra harsh resonances and it really should be transparent, unless it’s being pushed to extremes.
Also they do Black Friday sales, and I think maybe a summer sale?
I bought it on sale
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 757 posts since 10 Mar, 2020
Im faster and more on point removing the harsh frequencies with dynamic eq, thats what I meant.elxsound wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:54 pm I wouldn’t use it as a Q3 (or any EQ) replacement. I also wouldn’t use it as a replacement for something like Pro-DS.
Soothe 2 is there to tame ultra harsh resonances and it really should be transparent, unless it’s being pushed to extremes.
Also they do Black Friday sales, and I think maybe a summer sale?
I bought it on sale
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 757 posts since 10 Mar, 2020
Im faster and more on point removing the harsh frequencies with dynamic eq, thats what I meant.elxsound wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:54 pm I wouldn’t use it as a Q3 (or any EQ) replacement. I also wouldn’t use it as a replacement for something like Pro-DS.
Soothe 2 is there to tame ultra harsh resonances and it really should be transparent, unless it’s being pushed to extremes.
Also they do Black Friday sales, and I think maybe a summer sale?
I bought it on sale
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- addled muppet weed
- 105840 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
i think hes faster and more on point removing the harsher frequencies with a dynamic eq, thats probably what he meant.
- KVRAF
- 9788 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
Then you don’t need it.Tendou wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:10 pmIm faster and more on point removing the harsh frequencies with dynamic eq, thats what I meant.elxsound wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:54 pm I wouldn’t use it as a Q3 (or any EQ) replacement. I also wouldn’t use it as a replacement for something like Pro-DS.
Soothe 2 is there to tame ultra harsh resonances and it really should be transparent, unless it’s being pushed to extremes.
Also they do Black Friday sales, and I think maybe a summer sale?
I bought it on sale
I see no other reason to use it except if you run into harsh resonances that can be hard to remove maybe because there’s multiple frequencies and where sometimes the harsh resonances can be mixed in with wanted harmonic content.
I would never use it for anything else and I’ve used it extremely rarely.
I don’t even think they market for much else. I just checked the site and basically it’s a tool meant for severe problems
I’m not her to convince you to love it. I don’t love it. I don’t hate it. It does what it does just like other tools do what they do.
If something works better then do that.
- KVRAF
- 9788 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
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- KVRAF
- 4465 posts since 27 Jul, 2004
But you forgot one of the most important points of something like soothe:Tendou wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:10 pmIm faster and more on point removing the harsh frequencies with dynamic eq, thats what I meant.elxsound wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:54 pm I wouldn’t use it as a Q3 (or any EQ) replacement. I also wouldn’t use it as a replacement for something like Pro-DS.
Soothe 2 is there to tame ultra harsh resonances and it really should be transparent, unless it’s being pushed to extremes.
Also they do Black Friday sales, and I think maybe a summer sale?
I bought it on sale
Spectral dynamic processors follow the input harmonically and automatically...
Means if you have some harsh frequencies in your bass and you remove them with i.e. dynamic EQ what do you do when the pitch of your bass changes??
Yes of course you could use some trickery to let Pro-Q3 follow incoming midi notes but that´s a whole lot of work which every Spectral compressor does automatically...
And as very rarely pitch of tracks stay the same this is a quite strong point for spectral plugins over dynamic EQs and your "faster and more on point" theory vanishes into thin air...
Dynamic EQ´s have their place... but can never replace what a spectral compressor does...
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- KVRAF
- 2945 posts since 23 Dec, 2002
I am sure you've got company but I wouldn't be without it. I find it keeps more of the good stuff; dynamic EQ and general purpose EQ seem like brute force tools in comparison. People have mixed forever without it so take all the raves with a grain of salt. Nothing wrong with having a desenting opinion or a different experience.
Tendou wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 6:31 pm Am I the only one who thinks the plugin is massivly overpriced? I tried to use it several times but using FabFilter Q3 in dynamic mode is faster to me than dialing in Soothe2 in a way so it doesnt cut important frequencies.
For deessing I use a dedicated De-Esser.
I dont get the point why people love it so much. In mastering I do at least have use for Gullfoss bc it makes stuff better but faster in contrast to Soothe2…
Am I alone. Just curious
- KVRAF
- 14962 posts since 13 Nov, 2012
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- KVRer
- 16 posts since 13 Feb, 2016
I demoed it like 3 times and it was not transparent for most mastering use, could not justify the purchase, so you are not alone. Dynamic or static eq does the job for me and does it better. Gulfoss is another thing but it is more transparent in its action, so gets used in mastering sometimes. For mixing I guess it could be more useful, but again at that price, I guess it could make some really bad resonant recording with lots of pitch change better, but for me it is always better to record again if possible and remove the problem at the source.
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- KVRAF
- 2398 posts since 28 Sep, 2012
Agreed. I find much better results using TDR Slick EQ GE and Nova GE.