I'm trying to find RAW drum samples (NOT LOOPS).
I've used Dance Mega Drums 2 before and I'm thinking of purchasing Dance Mega Drum Kits which is just a larger version of the same. My complain with it though is a lot of the drums are sliced right out of tracks so you have kicks mixed with snares and hats and vice versa.
I'm doing House production so I'm not into the Accoustic drum kits either. I really want quantity more than quality.
Can anyone suggest a Site or a Sample CD?
Raw Drum Samples
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- 2 posts since 9 Dec, 2004
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- 111294 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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- KVRist
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- 56 posts since 1 Mar, 2004 from London, SW
That looks alright. The demo sounds pretty good. Have you actually bought this product? Are the samples clean and not sliced out of songs?
After reading some other postings and opening the drums in Cool Edit, you can quickly see that MOST of the kick drums are clipped and theres huge DC offsets. I admit, its cheap for a lot of drums, but there are some serious problems there.
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- KVRAF
- 7936 posts since 18 Feb, 2003 from out there somewhere
I'd recommend this as well. Very good collection of hits although I'd say there's a fair amount of pitchshifting the same hits in there but it's still worth the money.Twigg wrote:That looks alright. The demo sounds pretty good. Have you actually bought this product? Are the samples clean and not sliced out of songs?
After reading some other postings and opening the drums in Cool Edit, you can quickly see that MOST of the kick drums are clipped and theres huge DC offsets. I admit, its cheap for a lot of drums, but there are some serious problems there.
I use this and BlisterPak and have more drums than I can eat...
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- KVRAF
- 7936 posts since 18 Feb, 2003 from out there somewhere
yes.rpc9943 wrote:are there any other nice cheap drumhit sample cds?
RonC
go here - www.timespace.com
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- KVRAF
- 6937 posts since 4 Jun, 2004 from Utrecht, Holland
Go to hollowsun (www dot com?) and get some of the vintage drumcomputer samples. Process these with your own taste of effects (eq, compression, reverb, pitch, bitcrush, whatever) and you got truely unique drum hit samples for free!
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
Hollowsun is a good place indeed, for machine made drums.
Hammersound is a good place for some naturally sounding drum kits (you should get something to extract them from the soundfonts there).
NS Studio Kit has some excellent free samples.
Kingstons Ruffrider and Easyrider kits have some excellent free samples.
Kalava has been some very good place for certain sounds, but it's closed now (bye bye to that old familiar place).
A lot of soundfont sites have kits as well. Again, you will have to extract them (shouldn't be a problem).
www.waveform.dk just came to my mind, a whole bunch of not-so-often-found free samples there, such as an Udu.
http://meanbeat.cjb.net/ has a whole bunch of nice samples too, you just need to wait a bit as right now the site has exceeded the maximum transfer rate.
For the others, links should be easy to find.
Hammersound is a good place for some naturally sounding drum kits (you should get something to extract them from the soundfonts there).
NS Studio Kit has some excellent free samples.
Kingstons Ruffrider and Easyrider kits have some excellent free samples.
Kalava has been some very good place for certain sounds, but it's closed now (bye bye to that old familiar place).
A lot of soundfont sites have kits as well. Again, you will have to extract them (shouldn't be a problem).
www.waveform.dk just came to my mind, a whole bunch of not-so-often-found free samples there, such as an Udu.
http://meanbeat.cjb.net/ has a whole bunch of nice samples too, you just need to wait a bit as right now the site has exceeded the maximum transfer rate.
For the others, links should be easy to find.
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- KVRAF
- 6490 posts since 14 Jun, 2004 from Rochester, NY
well yes i have most of these, but I still feel somehow unsatisfied.. What's my problem? lol
I feel like any drum arrangement I make sounds ... simplistic and non-interesting...
*sigh*
when i implement a loop or something, it has some kind of "glue" like really nice sounding hihats or shakers...
RonC
I feel like any drum arrangement I make sounds ... simplistic and non-interesting...
*sigh*
when i implement a loop or something, it has some kind of "glue" like really nice sounding hihats or shakers...
RonC
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- KVRAF
- 7936 posts since 18 Feb, 2003 from out there somewhere
perhaps try compressing all the drums together so they sound coherent? Not sure what level you are at in terms of programming and production so it's hard to offer advice. Can you put up any examples (I'm far from an expert myself BTW)...rpc9943 wrote:well yes i have most of these, but I still feel somehow unsatisfied.. What's my problem? lol
I feel like any drum arrangement I make sounds ... simplistic and non-interesting...
*sigh*
when i implement a loop or something, it has some kind of "glue" like really nice sounding hihats or shakers...
RonC
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- KVRAF
- 6490 posts since 14 Jun, 2004 from Rochester, NY
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
Let me tell you something: In, say, roughly 80% of all cases this hasn't got anything to do with the samples used.rpc9943 wrote: when i implement a loop or something, it has some kind of "glue" like really nice sounding hihats or shakers...
It's all up to the programming.
Not to say that good sounds won't help, but from my own experience I could just say that with proper programming skills very often even mediocre sounds will do a good job.
Basically it's all up to two things:
- Timing
- Dynamics
eventually hand in hand with your selection of sounds.
Simple example: You want some basic pattern, mostly using a hihat, establishing a 16th note groove.
Now, if you were programming for a 70s disco tune you would eventually just programm some 16th note hats, eventually doing a few accents here and there.
Not so with any contemporary 16th grooves.
Instead of just playing 16ths on their hats, drummers usually (well, at least often) alternate between hihats on the 8ths and ghost snare strokes on the offbeat 16ths. Those need to be VERY low in volume, just so that you can hear or rather "feel" them.
In addition, for a start, try to accent, say, the 8ths offbeats on the hat (or every third hat beat, whatever suits your taste).
Then, delete one or the other 16th off snare ghost note and/or slightly raise the volume of one or the other.
Then, take the complete pattern and eventually add a *very* slight shuffle. Or shift one or the other note manually. But those tweakings aren't all THAT important, dynamics is what it's all about!
OK, when done, add a simple kick track and a simple snare track. For now, try to keep them all on separate tracks (hihat/ghostsnare, kick, snare).
Out the kick on beats 1+3, snare on 2+4. Eventually add the occasional kick on some 8th note before or after 1+3, whatever suits your groove.
Now, fool with some track delay for the kick and snare tracks. Try to bring the snare track a bit behind the beat, just so múch that you start to feel the "laidback-ness" of it.
Then, eventually try to bring the kick in front, so you feel the "pressy-ness" of it.
Experiment with all sorts of combinations while keeping the hat/ghostsnare track straight.
IMO these are the things that get a drum/percussion track going - way more than changing samples would.
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