DAW

[olavooishi]

What are the most used DAWs for Epic Scoring?

[kritikon]

Hans Zimmer uses Cubase and he does some fairly epic scoring?

[vitocorleone123]

What are the most used DAWs for Epic Scoring?

Cubase
Logic
Studio One

[JWdeJong]

Just wondering. All DAWs do pretty much the same right? I thought it was just a matter of taste and compatibility what DAW to use. But this topic makes me think the DAW you use also should fit the style of music you make? If so, why?

[vurt]

Just wondering. All DAWs do pretty much the same right? I thought it was just a matter of taste and compatibility what DAW to use. But this topic makes me think the DAW you use also should fit the style of music you make? If so, why?

nope, your initial thought is correct.
music is music, pitch/duration/timbre of notes and spaces between.

the caveat is some hosts do lend themselves better to a loops based production (fl/live...) and some are easier to use in a more linear fashion.
but both can do both really, it's just "easier" (ynmv).

[JWdeJong]

nope, your initial thought is correct.
music is music, pitch/duration/timbre of notes and spaces between.

the caveat is some hosts do lend themselves better to a loops based production (fl/live...) and some are easier to use in a more linear fashion.
but both can do both really, it's just "easier" (ynmv).

Thank you for the clarification!

I ve been using Ableton and initially I used the sessions view for inspiration and just for fun. But now i never use it anymore. I'm not producing on a loop base anymore but i have no trouble producing in a more linear fashion in the arrangement view. But then I have never used another Daw besides fl and live. What benefits does other daws have (now i produce in a more linear way) in comparison to lives arrangement view?

[vurt]

nope, your initial thought is correct.
music is music, pitch/duration/timbre of notes and spaces between.

the caveat is some hosts do lend themselves better to a loops based production (fl/live...) and some are easier to use in a more linear fashion.
but both can do both really, it's just "easier" (ynmv).

Thank you for the clarification!

I ve been using Ableton and initially I used the sessions view for inspiration and just for fun. But now i never use it anymore. I'm not producing on a loop base anymore but i have no trouble producing in a more linear fashion in the arrangement view. But then I have never used another Daw besides fl and live. What benefits does other daws have (now i produce in a more linear way) in comparison to lives arrangement view?

it's hard to say really, as we all have different needs.
one example might be the cubase tempo mapping, being able to adjust bar lines and such. this is only something that may be useful to those doing orchestral music where there is more movement there, than most electronic genres, where a fixed tempo throughout is needed

then a lot of things will be the different shortcuts available, will suit different people.

unless you can think of something you feel unable to do in live, i wouldn't even consider looking elsewhere.
even if it can do the same things, a new host will mean learning where everything is anew, and then probably finding that the time and cost, didn't really change much.

[JWdeJong]

nope, your initial thought is correct.
music is music, pitch/duration/timbre of notes and spaces between.

the caveat is some hosts do lend themselves better to a loops based production (fl/live...) and some are easier to use in a more linear fashion.
but both can do both really, it's just "easier" (ynmv).

Thank you for the clarification!

I ve been using Ableton and initially I used the sessions view for inspiration and just for fun. But now i never use it anymore. I'm not producing on a loop base anymore but i have no trouble producing in a more linear fashion in the arrangement view. But then I have never used another Daw besides fl and live. What benefits does other daws have (now i produce in a more linear way) in comparison to lives arrangement view?

it's hard to say really, as we all have different needs.
one example might be the cubase tempo mapping, being able to adjust bar lines and such. this is only something that may be useful to those doing orchestral music where there is more movement there, than most electronic genres, where a fixed tempo throughout is needed

then a lot of things will be the different shortcuts available, will suit different people.

unless you can think of something you feel unable to do in live, i wouldn't even consider looking elsewhere.
even if it can do the same things, a new host will mean learning where everything is anew, and then probably finding that the time and cost, didn't really change much.

Thanks again. One thing I remember hearing in a walkthrough video Disclosure made of a track is that he used Ableton for warping samples because of the algorithms it uses. But he preferred Logic's stock plugins.

And now im typing this I remember a podcast with HONNE, about making a new album, they switched from Logic to Ableton specifically to make the album differ from their previous releases. Thought that was a interesting idea.

But Im sticking to Ableton for now.

[Tresor]

As the choice of a DAW is a matter of taste and how it adapts to your 'natural' workflow, for me the choice was Ableton. I feel like other DAWs were born as a simulation of analogue world: mixing consoles, routing... But Ableton workflow was built from scratch.
For example Ableton Audioracks was a game changer for me.
In general, I find it more intuitive than any other.

[illian]

In my country mostly they using Cubase for Scoring

[Adrian Earnshaw Music]

No one DAW is going to make you into Hans Zimmer. The best advice I can give you is to find a DAW that suites your work flow, that you know inside out, and practice/learn scoring. Each DAW has its positives and negatives. For example I use Cubase, but have Bitwig for when I do any live performances.

[eLawnMust]

Yes, Well said. Through the years there are DAWs & sequencers sprung-up from different origins mostly from an audio standpoint or a MIDI standpoint. Generally I find that many beginners or dabblers prefer like ableton-type systems which allow messing with audio till there is like a 'happy accident' at some point.
Those who know music & what they wish to accomplish really don't have much use for 'parlor tricks' thus will forge on with something more powerful MIDI beginnings like Cubase, Cakewalk Stuff, EnergyXT, Tracktion, Reason or similar.
Not that ableton can't do some of that it did not get MIDI until version 4...

[six7]

Well I have used most of them and some have come and gone over the past 25 years. I can't honestly say that I am in love with any specific one because they all have their shortcomings and none really do it all well. Some look horrible and can just be a deterrent for even wanting to use it. I used Logic for many years, since the eMagic days but then Apple basically removed all customizability and ruined the GUI so I tossed that out the window. There is also price to consider as well as workflow style. I think the above statement about Ableton is really misguided especially when it is followed up by a handful of inferior platforms. Ableton offers extensive tweaking and deep programming capabilities (especially when paired with MaxforLive) that just cannot be accomplished with other DAWs (Bitwig being the exception). The one thing to keep in mind when trying to compare Ableton to a more traditional linear editor is the fact they named it Ableton "Live" for a reason. The whole workflow is ideal for recording and building live performances for an electronic musician. Ableton, along with Maschine and Bitwig excel at this approach. In my opinion Ableton is horrendous at linear editing and working with picture however. Recording voiceover and editing comps in Ableton feels like the whole process is a workaround just to be honest. To be fair though, these gripes I have just mentioned are not what Ableton was intended to excel at. This is why I use Live along with Pro Tools and Maschine at this point. Again going back to my original statement that none of them do it all well. My advice would be to figure out how you want to work first and not expect just one application to be the answer, then pick the ones that you can stand to look at for long periods of time haha.

[Aqusmatiq Audio]

I use Logic, if you write scores (i.e.) actual notes, it is the best IMO

[jules99]

To give you an idea of how far you can go with non-linear, more clip-based DAWs like FL Studio for example: Take a look at two recent videos by YouTubers Benn Jordan and Venus Theory. Pretty epic cinema.




So even with FL, you can so epic scores.