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revvy wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 3:12 amwhy would anyone snap back at him ?
Because, clearly, dissenting opinions are not tolerated. At best, he'll be ignored, like Vortifex or JerGoertz, but if he dares to try and engage anyone, it will very quickly turn ugly.
JerGoertz wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:42 am Am I the only one who thinks this sounds digital in all the wrong ways?
Agree with this.
You're courting disaster here. Unless you are agreeing that he's the only one who thinks it sounds digital in all the wrong ways? If that's the case, you should be OK. Although you'll be wrong, because I agree with him, so he's not the only one. But it doesn't matter if you're wrong, as long as you agree with everyone else.
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solar28 wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:15 am I knew exactly that you would literally come on here and say something so false as "I've never belittled anyone".
Prove it. One example will do. I belittle opinions, not people. People aren't worth the effort and none of us know anyone here well enough to do it effectively anyway.
Are you going to factually deny that mods haven't warned you about your behavior?
I've been banned several times but, the thing is, this place is hardly the real world, the rules are arbitrary and mostly stupid. None of it would hold up in court, so to speak.
Electron boxes allow per step effects? Per step sample switching?
I'm not sure about sample switching, I only have an Analog Keys, but definitely per step patches, which I would assume includes effects. I don't use the sequencer, so I've never tried it, but it's definitely a feature and I have heard it making kick, snare and hi-hat drum loops from a single monosynth within the structure. Of course, that's something that make perfect sense in Analog Keys, because there are only four synths in there, but in a computer, it has few, if any, uses.
That's kind of a far cry from, "this doesn't do anything that many other plugins already do".
Sorry, you don't get to have a second go after I have already explained my error. Although you probably didn't take that in, as it goes against the grain of your sad, little narrative. To be fair to me, though, you really need to explain why that's a feature that makes this otherwise poor instrument worth $150, particularly when so many other synths can do the same things in a different way.
I prove you completely wrong from a factual basis and all you can do is claim you are completely right in everything you've ever said. It's kinda beautiful.
Except in my previous post, where I explained where I was wrong. How f**king dumb do you need to be to say something that you only need to look a few posts up to see is blatantly untrue? To make it easier for you, I have edited that part of the post so that it shows up in orange, bold and underlined. All you need to do is scroll up to see that you are completely wrong. Or maybe you're just lying, it's hard to know.
because after years of mistreating people on this forum with personal attacks, now you are like, "oh poor me you must attack me personally since you can't logically defeat my arguments". lol. I know you will never change. You are incapable.
Clearly far more capable than you.
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BONES wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 5:10 am
solar28 wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:15 am I knew exactly that you would literally come on here and say something so false as "I've never belittled anyone".
Prove it. One example will do. I belittle opinions, not people. People aren't worth the effort and none of us know anyone here well enough to do it effectively anyway.
Are you going to factually deny that mods haven't warned you about your behavior?
I've been banned several times but, the thing is, this place is hardly the real world, the rules are arbitrary and mostly stupid. None of it would hold up in court, so to speak.
Electron boxes allow per step effects? Per step sample switching?
I'm not sure about sample switching, I only have an Analog Keys, but definitely per step patches, which I would assume includes effects. I don't use the sequencer, so I've never tried it, but it's definitely a feature and I have heard it making kick, snare and hi-hat drum loops from a single monosynth within the structure. Of course, that's something that make perfect sense in Analog Keys, because there are only four synths in there, but in a computer, it has few, if any, uses.
That's kind of a far cry from, "this doesn't do anything that many other plugins already do".
Sorry, you don't get to have a second go after I have already explained my error. Although you probably didn't take that in, as it goes against the grain of your sad, little narrative. To be fair to me, though, you really need to explain why that's a feature that makes this otherwise poor instrument worth $150, particularly when so many other synths can do the same things in a different way.
I prove you completely wrong from a factual basis and all you can do is claim you are completely right in everything you've ever said. It's kinda beautiful.
Except in my previous post, where I explained where I was wrong. How f**king dumb do you need to be to say something that you only need to look a few posts up to see is blatantly untrue? To make it easier for you, I have edited that part of the post so that it shows up in orange, bold and underlined. All you need to do is scroll up to see that you are completely wrong. Or maybe you're just lying, it's hard to know.
because after years of mistreating people on this forum with personal attacks, now you are like, "oh poor me you must attack me personally since you can't logically defeat my arguments". lol. I know you will never change. You are incapable.
Clearly far more capable than you.
I aint proving nothing to you boner. I don't work for you. I love how you want a fight. I made it clear that this is what you come to threads to do. You are a bully who has belittled others in this forum hundreds of times over the years. I love you you act like a little victim now. You are not just the stereotype of a bully, you are the prototype. All hail to you, great god of all logic. I love how you have absolutely zero remorse over all the years to all the people you belittled. Then just straight up lie about it. How about YOU prove that never once, ever, did mods call you out on your abusive behavior big guy? You are so terrible I love it. Popping the popcorn big guy.

EDIT: I apologize big guy. You do acknowledge that you've been banned several times, but obviously for "stupid rules" that woudn't hold up in a "court of law" so to speak. This is really a great admission because how you see it you've never ever done anything wrong. You were banned for stupid reasons. Thank you for demonstrating yet again that you have zero remorse. You say you belittle opinions but not people. I've witnessed you in hundreds of posts over the years telling people things like "you have to be a complete idiot if . . .". So literally you've attacked people personally first before presenting any type of argument. You literally attack people's general competency as a human being before presenting your argument. One person (me) gives you the same medicine, and now all of a sudden your a victim that can't have an opinion. I know you. I read your threads like cheap entertainment. You are such an asshole to people here but yeah, Bones, you've NEVER done anything wrong and any bans you've received were for stupid rules. Absolutely fascinating.
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BONES wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 5:04 am
You're courting disaster here. Unless you are agreeing that he's the only one who thinks it sounds digital in all the wrong ways?
No, I agree with him (and you, and maybe others) that it doesn't sound great.

Don't really feel like I'm courting disaster. I'll be fine. Strong shoulders, me.
I lost my heart in Cap de Creus

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Bones said: People aren't worth the effort and none of us know anyone here well enough to do it effectively anyway.

This is exactly you Bones. People aren't worth the effort and we live in a fantasy world on the internet where people aren't worth the effort. So in your world view it's totally OK to belittle people here because they aren't worth it. Your words big guy.

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Oh, and here's the greatest quote in Bones' history:
I don't belittle anyone, people belittle themselves with their stupidity. I just point out to them how stupid they look. It's a service I am happy to provide.

What a terribly abusive outlook. I'm going to quote this on everything Boners posts. This is exactly how he pretends to see himself. Everyone needs to know that this thing sees himself as superior to everyone else. Everyone needs to know he's not worth engaging with. He's exactly the prototype of an abuser. His "mana" is sucking the confidence out of other human beings. And he's completely proud of it, with zero remorse. As evidenced in his proud post above. I guess we should be thankful for his service of making people look stupid?

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Sorry folks but can we please stick to the topic before this thread gets locked.

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JerGoertz wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:42 am Am I the only one who thinks this sounds digital in all the wrong ways?
Yes. ;). Dunno man, I think it sounds OK. I guess I'm trying to understand what everyone is expecting. It's a VST version of a very inexpensive synth with some cool features but sound-wise I'm not sure that it's doing anything that you can't get out of other pieces of gear or VSTs. If you dig it and the price is right to you buy it. For those like me that upgrade V Collection every time an update is released it seems silly to buy now unless you absolutely need it even at $49. It will be in the next release.

All of this stuff ends up like religious wars with our resident Trump always getting involved like he's the last word. Its a f**king plugin, it's not going to colonize Mars or cure cancer. Arturia does a nice job but like anything else not everyone is going to like what they're doing.

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solar28 wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 5:25 am
BONES wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 5:10 am Prove it. One example will do. I belittle opinions, not people. People aren't worth the effort and none of us know anyone here well enough to do it effectively anyway.
I aint proving nothing to you boner. I don't work for you.
Page 8 post 1. I mean cmon. Its like shooting fish in a barrel.

Linkwarp: You come across as a bit of a misanthrope. Lighten up.
BONES: Why? So you can all feel better about how pathetic you are?

Yeah, he's not belittling the person (persons actually....note the "all") :hihi: I'm sure we can expect a post on WHY calling someone pathetic directly is in fact not belittling the person but their opinion :lol:

Here's a screenshot just in case

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Personally, I'm a big fan of hybrid synths. The oscillators sound granular and distinct when you run them through long reverbs, whereas analog oscillators wash out. With that said, I would never want a hybrid synth as my only synth or even as my main synth. They're the flavor on top of analog synths, they don't replace analog synths.
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it's agent bones sir, there's been an accident!

it's ok corporal, we have the technology, we can rebuild him.

but, but, but... there is no thunder storm, how do we revive him?

did you not listen to the lydon files?
anger, is an energy! he will be immortal!!
:ud:

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Now that Trump had been invoked, the thread needs to be locked or those comments filtered to their own HPC.

Maybe the admins could just remove all bones-head comments to their own thread under the HPC forum?

The more we relegate a thread to it, the more miasma it flourishes in.
We're dealing with a list of deficiencies and disorders here and any engagement with it is their only reason and desire of being here.

And please leave any political figure or belief out as well?

Just scroll past its troll bait. A lack of engagement is the only thing that will make it move on to another feeding ground.

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BOT: As far as this plugin goes, I'm sure it has its place in the collection or on its own. I'm in the camp that is not something I can't wait for to be included in say, Collection 11?

In some ways, it's even a straw that is making the weight of the collection more than I want to bear.

The thought has been circling in my mind of a division between the emulations of the old and these new ones that are evolving from them.

Pigments, Augments, Freaks may be the better streamline of minimalism for me.

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JerGoertz wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:42 am Am I the only one who thinks this sounds digital in all the wrong ways?
Not at all. After a couple of days demoing I'm absolutely underwhelmed. This synth went from an almost no-brainer at £60, to why would I waste £60 (?) on this quite average sounding synth. :ud:

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So do we not think the MI ports sound as good as the ‘real’ thing?

Just curious as I have a few MI modules and am wetting my pants at the code appearing in a multitude of hardware (outside of Eurorack) and VST.

MI just sounds glorious

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For me, it doesn't replace any synth I have but the way it's designed and what kind of sounds it makes, it would add new ideas and spices. It can make excellent intro or a lo-fi kind of sounds. So, it's kind of excellent companion to beefy sounds from other synths.
It worth $49 but compared with $99 discounted synths like PhasePlant or Dune or Massive X, there is no chance as the mentioned synths can make beefy sounds I don't think MiniFreak is capable of.
So, as a secondary synth for twisted sounds and effects, it's an excellent synth for $49 IMO.
Using: Cubase Pro 15, Reason 13, Tascam US-4x4HR, MODX6, DM12D, LaunchKey 49, Yamaha guitar(Pacifica 612v) and bass (BB234) and some virtual instruments and synths.

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