If you could have only one reverb, what would you choose?

[jamcat]

Sean never claimed for a second that they sound just like Lexicon, but most of the algorithms in VVV are inspired by Lexicon algorithms (there's some AMS, and EMT in there too). VVV has a lot more low-mid buildup than the Lexicons (basing this off 224/480 plugins), but that's just part of the sound. It sounds awesome on synths for example. EQ that out, and you can get them very close to the 480 for example. But in general, the Lexicons do blend into the mix better IMO.

But I picked VVV a few pages back. It's not my "favorite" reverb, but if I could only have one, that's the one by a long shot!

Why would you pick that over LX480, which as of V4 is a sample accurate 480L reproduction?

[InLight-Tone]

FabFilter Pro-R. Very versatile, covers a lot of bases.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Sean never claimed for a second that they sound just like Lexicon, but most of the algorithms in VVV are inspired by Lexicon algorithms (there's some AMS, and EMT in there too). VVV has a lot more low-mid buildup than the Lexicons (basing this off 224/480 plugins), but that's just part of the sound. It sounds awesome on synths for example. EQ that out, and you can get them very close to the 480 for example. But in general, the Lexicons do blend into the mix better IMO.

But I picked VVV a few pages back. It's not my "favorite" reverb, but if I could only have one, that's the one by a long shot!

Why would you pick that over LX480, which as of V4 is a sample accurate 480L reproduction?

Because VVV does a lot more than the 480L overall.

[jamcat]

Sean never claimed for a second that they sound just like Lexicon, but most of the algorithms in VVV are inspired by Lexicon algorithms (there's some AMS, and EMT in there too). VVV has a lot more low-mid buildup than the Lexicons (basing this off 224/480 plugins), but that's just part of the sound. It sounds awesome on synths for example. EQ that out, and you can get them very close to the 480 for example. But in general, the Lexicons do blend into the mix better IMO.

But I picked VVV a few pages back. It's not my "favorite" reverb, but if I could only have one, that's the one by a long shot!

Why would you pick that over LX480, which as of V4 is a sample accurate 480L reproduction?

Because VVV does a lot more than the 480L overall.

So it's my understanding that older Lexicons, up through and including the 224X, used chorusing to break up standing wave nodes in the program, but the 480L was "next generation" and introduced much more sophisticated algorithms that used pseudo-random modulation for smoothing. This resulted in a much more natural reverb sound, which is why the 480L was (and still is) so highly regarded.

It's also my understanding that VintageVerb is in the style of the old pre-480 Lexicon verbs. Does it also do the newer "random" reverberation?

Also, there was the Classic Cart add-on from Lexicon, which added four 224-style algorithms to the 480L. Do you know if this is something Martin might add to the LX480? Has anyone in the Relab beta program suggested it?

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

So it's my understanding that older Lexicons, up through and including the 224X, used chorusing to break up standing wave nodes in the program, but the 480L was "next generation" and introduced much more sophisticated algorithms that used pseudo-random modulation for smoothing. This resulted in a much more natural reverb sound, which is why the 480L was (and still is) so highly regarded.

It's also my understanding that VintageVerb is in the style of the old pre-480 Lexicon verbs. Does it also do the newer "random" reverberation?

Also, there was the Classic Cart add-on from Lexicon, which added four 224-style algorithms to the 480L. Do you know if this is something Martin might add to the LX480? Has anyone in the Relab beta program suggested it?

ValhallaVintageVerb was originally dialed in with 224XL, 300M, and PCM70. So it's a bit of an amalgamation of various Lexicon-style reverbs throughout the ages. My understanding is that some of the algorithms use some version of the Lexicon-style Random modulation (e.g. Random Space, Smooth Random). Others use the Lexicon Chorsus-Style modulation. Where you have both options (e.g. Random Space and Chorus Space), you might try Random space on pitched instruments if you wanted to avoid the chorus detuning sound, but you may also dig that sound on some sources like I do). The Dirty Hall and Dirty Plate algorithms with the 1970s Color mode were dialed in and A/B'd against a 224XL. I think the Chamber is inspired by the Rich Chamber algorithm that became the basis of many subsequent (post-480) Lexicon verbs. Sanctuary is inspired by the EMT-250. The chaotic modes use a more tape-like modulation, which is dirty, but results in a clear less detuned sound. Ambience was dialed in from the Lexicon 300M. The "Smooth" algorithms are updated versions of the Plate, Room, and Random Hall for a smoother decay compared to the originals. As I said, there's just so much there. I just wish it did springs and AMS RMX-16 NonLin2/Ambience sounds.

No idea about the classic cart thing.

[mholloway]

If i wanted to read a list of every reverb plugin out there, I'd look up one of the other dozen times this question was asked on KVR.

[Fannon]

Maybe that also shows that there are plenty good reverb plugins out there and for most people it probably doesn't make a big difference which they go for?

I'm still using R4 mostly, which I got for 10$. Sounds really good. Not sure it's worth the money to get anything else as long as that works. VVV seems to be most popular in this thread.

[whassup]

Softube's Wasted Space

One of the cooler plugin names recently.

It can get even cooler :

I remember an April fools joke about a company called "BatPlugs" and their hall reverb called : "Asz Hall"

[whassup]

It's the old fun #3547. Sometimes boring, sometimes bored, sometimes interesting, again.

For the reverb question: Either VVV or Val Room. It's cool to have both. Everything else is optional for me right now (read special use cases like Val Plate or SuperMassive, LOL). Always GAS to fight, always a new (or old) plugin that is shouting ME, ME! Serious listening tests and test driving in a project or two make it clear.
But impulse buy is cheaper in effort, so...

Anybody knows an ER machine that is easy to use though flexible?

[Leo1999]

Recently I dig Valhalla Vintage Reverb Verb, TC DVR250 and IKMultimedia Sunset Sound Reverb.
Sorry but I´d need three reverbs.

[Michey]

Anybody knows an ER machine that is easy to use though flexible?

Denis Tihanov OrilRiver ?

DragonflyEarlyReflections ?

[the latter might freeze your DAW - so cation must be taken]

[heyheycnv]

I'll pick Fog Convolver 2 (and 2200 IRs).

[dionenoid]

UAD Lexicon 480

[whassup]

Anybody knows an ER machine that is easy to use though flexible?

Denis Tihanov OrilRiver ?

DragonflyEarlyReflections ?

[the latter might freeze your DAW - so cation must be taken]

Thanx, will check.

[theviirus]

Software only? UAD AMS RMX16
I don’t think you could bribe me with a real RMX16 to give it up. The UAD Lexicons are nice too but a little less immediate for me.

The INHALT RMX IR library also gets a ton of use.

Hardware only? Hard choice; an RMX16 or some massive EMT plate reverb. Part of the Whitehouse sound (can’t remember which record though) was cranking the gain on the reverb till they could hear radio transmissions…and that just seems fun.