Relab Development will release The Relab VSR REV6000 soon
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- KVRAF
- 2430 posts since 11 Jan, 2009 from Portland, OR, USA
Three months later and no sign of the thing whatsoever, good thing you made this post OP !!

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- KVRAF
- 2430 posts since 11 Jan, 2009 from Portland, OR, USA
Never gonna happen. It's been what, 5 years or something and the Quantec QRS and new VSR still aren't here. And you're asking for units they never even announced? Keep on dreamingjamcat wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:39 am I would like to see the Lexicon 224X and AMS RMX16 released by Relab before I die.
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- KVRAF
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- 8037 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
Savant Audio has released one instead of them.jamcat wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:32 pm It will come out right after Relab's Quantec QRS reverb!
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- KVRAF
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- 8037 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
Wave Alchemy will release an emulation soon.jamcat wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:39 am I would like to see the AMS RMX16 released by Relab before I die.
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- KVRAF
- 25038 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
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- KVRAF
- 12495 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Every time I read that the VSR6000 still isn’t out yet I chuckle a bit. Have had it for months now. Not sure what Relab is waiting for at this point.
- KVRAF
- 3057 posts since 6 Jul, 2013
Yes, they have released a Quantec emulation, but not of the same hardware. Relab's will be slavish to the original 80s version - Savant's is the much cleaner, polished 90s version, which is a different unit... (even the 80s algorithm in it is not the same as how the 80s version sounds, due to hardware and modelling differences.)
- KVRAF
- 7746 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
Martin Lind has mentioned interest in modeling both of those “synths”mholloway wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 2:20 amNever gonna happen. It's been what, 5 years or something and the Quantec QRS and new VSR still aren't here. And you're asking for synths they never even announced? Keep on dreamingjamcat wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:39 am I would like to see the Lexicon 224X and AMS RMX16 released by Relab before I die.![]()
I think Martin also considered the Bricasti M7 for a time. But I know it will be several lifetimes waiting for that one.
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- KVRAF
- 2430 posts since 11 Jan, 2009 from Portland, OR, USA
I wouldn't hold out any hope for things he 'mentioned interest in', given the rate of completion, but you seem to already know thatjamcat wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:38 pm
Martin Lind has mentioned interest in modeling both of those “synths”. The AMS in particular goes way back to before the TC reverb or Sonsig. I believe some AMS-type algorithms made it into Sonsig.
I think Martin also considered the Bricasti M7 for a time. But I know it will be several lifetimes waiting for that one.
The focus on Sonsig, emulation wise, seems clearly based around the Quantec Room simulator and 224 (or I think it's actually the 224x mentioned in the manual); these are what are 'emulated' in the Output Modes and mentioned in the documentation, never saw anything about the RMX16, but <shrug>.
Given the quality of Wave Alchemy's PCM-60 emulation ("Pulse") I think their take on the RMX 16 should prove very interesting indeed...
- KVRAF
- 7746 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
Isn't there a non-lin2 algorithm in Sonsig?mholloway wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:24 am The focus on Sonsig, emulation wise, seems clearly based around the Quantec Room simulator and 224 (or I think it's actually the 224x mentioned in the manual); these are what are 'emulated' in the Output Modes and mentioned in the documentation, never saw anything about the RMX16, but <shrug>.
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- KVRAF
- 3057 posts since 6 Jul, 2013
I don't think Sonsig is meant to emulate either of them. I think it's more that he was inspired by the Lexicon modulated reverbs, and developed a bunch of modulated algorithms that do similar things, but with his own take (for example, the modulations go way beyond the effect of the 224, they have multiple choruses going on etc.)mholloway wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:24 am The focus on Sonsig, emulation wise, seems clearly based around the Quantec Room simulator and 224 (or I think it's actually the 224x mentioned in the manual); these are what are 'emulated' in the Output Modes and mentioned in the documentation, never saw anything about the RMX16, but <shrug>.
And the Quantec, ironically, is known and loved *precisely* because it *doesn't* modulate/chorus it's reverb tails. The entire point of the algorithm is to provide natural tails without having to rely on modulation.
So in the case of Sonsig, the output modes are more to indicate a reverb age/character - Sonsig being the most modern and hi-fi, the 224 mode being softer and rolled off to about the frequency response of that device, and the QRS mode being even more lo-res.
RENDER MODE (QRS, 224, Rev-A)
These three render modes apply different processing accuracy and filtering, changing the reverb’s overall character.
- The QRS mode has a low-fi, desirable character with a steep high frequency cutoff.
- The 224 mode has a characteristic spaciousness and texture, and a relatively mild high frequency cutoff.
- The Rev-A mode has pristine sound, with no processes influencing the reverb’s spaciousness or frequency response.
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