Sampling snare drums - mics?
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stephenpaulharper stephenpaulharper https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=73921
- KVRian
- 778 posts since 4 Jul, 2005 from Atlanta
Wasn't sure where to post this, so if it's better suited for another section, please advise. I'm making multivlocity snare drum samples of my collection. My question relates to mic choices. I am using a CAD E-200 and an Audio Technica AT2835, Both condenser mics. They have worked well recording vocals and acoustic instruments, but I'm getting mixed results with my snare recordings. It varies from drum to drum, some turn out OK, but with others, I'm finding it impossible to dial in a good sound. I'm not married to these mics, and can pursue other options. Am I fighting a losing battle trying to get a decent snare sample with these mics? If so, suggestions? I'm not recording multi-channel. Just mono top and bottom snare.
Windows 10, Reaper
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
I've used a SHURE SM-58 and/or Audio Technica ATH50 dynamic mics for recording snares (and complete kits) for years, and have usually been pretty happy with the results. I would record 4 velocity-layers for the snares iirc. I've also used those mics as a pair for recording live drums ... one a metre in front of the kit and the other about a metre above the snare drum with good results. I now also have a RODE NT-1 condensor, but so far I've only used it with percussion, guitars, vocals & location stuff.
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stephenpaulharper stephenpaulharper https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=73921
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 778 posts since 4 Jul, 2005 from Atlanta
Hey, thanks. I'm making instruments for my Pearl Mimic Pro edrum module. The standard is 9 velocity layers, with six round robins per layer. So lots of hits, but fairly automated in Reaper, so it's no big deal. These mics have served me well for other project, but I'm getting pretty thin and shallow tracks for the most part. I've got a 58,, but drum samples I've recorded with it haven't turned out well so far. I'm using a Yamaha MG10 nixer which has served me well for the most part, but maybe some more substantial preamps might help? I've got some really nice vintage, great-sounding snares, so if I have to spend a little to get some quality samples, so be it.thecontrolcentre wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:38 pm I've used a SHURE SM-58 and/or Audio Technica ATH50 dynamic mics for recording snares (and complete kits) for years, and have usually been pretty happy with the results. I would record 4 velocity-layers for the snares iirc. I've also used those mics as a pair for recording live drums ... one a metre in front of the kit and the other about a metre above the snare drum with good results. I now also have a RODE NT-1 condensor, but so far I've only used it for recording percussion, guitars, vocals & location stuff.
Windows 10, Reaper
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- KVRist
- 191 posts since 2 Apr, 2002 from Cincinnati, OH
A Shure SM57 ís one of the classic snare mics. Beyerdynamic M201 is also frequently used and has a little bit of a fuller response. For me, I use the SM57, but would love to get a M201 at some point!
- KVRAF
- 13833 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
+1 Shure SM57
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Adrian Charras Music Adrian Charras Music https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=599590
- KVRer
- 5 posts since 28 Jan, 2023
I once used a Dpa 4011.
It is an unconventional microphone for the snare, but the result was very good.
It is an unconventional microphone for the snare, but the result was very good.
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stephenpaulharper stephenpaulharper https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=73921
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 778 posts since 4 Jul, 2005 from Atlanta
Thanks for all of the great suggestions. So far, this setup has given me the best results. 57, 3 inches from the top of the drum. 58, 6 inches below the resonant head. The CAD and Audio-Technica condensers as room mics, about 6 ft. from the drum. Pads off on the concensers and the 57, but on the condenser mixer channels Thanks again for sharing your expertise.
Windows 10, Reaper
