Whats up with Bidule

[Tj Shredder]

There is that thread in the instruments forum called „whats up at Plogue“. But its so frustrating, they talk 100% about chip synths. Which is the least interesting topic imaginable, whereas Bidule would be something to talk about.
Its a modular, so it belongs into this forum anyway…
I wonder if there had there ever been a sale?
Will it ever reach version 1.0?
But they seem to support CLAP, which makes me believe its still in development…
I didn‘t get it yet, so arguments for or against it are welcome…

[ghettosynth]

There is that thread in the instruments forum called „whats up at Plogue“. But its so frustrating, they talk 100% about chip synths. Which is the least interesting topic imaginable, whereas Bidule would be something to talk about.
Its a modular, so it belongs into this forum anyway…
I wonder if there had there ever been a sale?
Will it ever reach version 1.0?
But they seem to support CLAP, which makes me believe its still in development…
I didn‘t get it yet, so arguments for or against it are welcome…

There has been a sale. Don't ask me what it was, I don't remember, but I bought it on sale. There are aspects of it that I like, and aspects that annoy me. The biggest annoyance is the limitation of building usable panels. I still don't have an environment that works well for what I want here. That is, it has to be a VST plugin/host that allows you to build up a modular effect/instrument, but mostly effects, from other plugins and then create a panel for said instrument with the ability to map knobs/switches to plugin parameters.

Synthedit use to host VSTs, but not the last time I checked. That would be a reasonable approach, but I really want something that can be edited while hosted. I wish that Bidule worked better here. Max would be perfect if it worked as a plugin, it does not. Reaktor hosting VSTs would be the cat's meow, I wouldn't bother looking for anything else.

[vurt]

yes, development is ongoing.
i like it, although im sure as above, others may need more, but for me it does more than i need.
had an issue once, late friday night, emailed, thinking id get a reply on the monday, was up and running within a couple of hours from my first email

[ElVincente]

There has been a sale. Don't ask me what it was, I don't remember, but I bought it on sale. There are aspects of it that I like, and aspects that annoy me. The biggest annoyance is the limitation of building usable panels. I still don't have an environment that works well for what I want here. That is, it has to be a VST plugin/host that allows you to build up a modular effect/instrument, but mostly effects, from other plugins and then create a panel for said instrument with the ability to map knobs/switches to plugin parameters.

Synthedit use to host VSTs, but not the last time I checked. That would be a reasonable approach, but I really want something that can be edited while hosted. I wish that Bidule worked better here. Max would be perfect if it worked as a plugin, it does not. Reaktor hosting VSTs would be the cat's meow, I wouldn't bother looking for anything else.

Mulab plugin maybe ?

[jersmi7]

Well, I think Plogue products are pretty solid, and I can appreciate the love for chip synths, I’m happy for their success. Some folks just have no time for a complex modular environment like Bidule. Personally, I’ve always loved Bidule… Bidule was Plogue’s flagship product, a couple decades in now, the foundation upon which everything else they’ve done was built. The Bidule side of Plogue is really a one-man operation at this point, but the dev is cool and approachable. It will likely never go to version 1, but as you noticed with CLAP, it’s managed to stay pretty up-to-date regarding the important stuff. Forum support has always been spot on. I turned to it from max/msp way back when because for me it was much more of a musical environment, stable plugin host, modular building blocks, multichannel plugin version, etc. It feels dated at this point because there are some pretty amazing modular products that surpass it with GUI and ease of use (I like Audulus). So if you are looking for something that looks really pretty, maybe not. But if you don’t care about that and you just want stability and power, it’s pretty great. Bidule remains viable.