Alternatives to Absynth?

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martinjuenke
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6250 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Hanover, Germany

Post Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:04 am

Kalamata Kid wrote:
ErikH wrote:Hell, I don't give a damn about how it was coded. I love Falcon, and I love Zebra, but I do know that after all these years Absynth is still the one I would choose if I only could keep only one.
Chromaphone would be my second.

I cannot explain, but Absynth has something purely magical. Some women are real beauty queens, but they don't have 'it'. Some are not even very pretty but they do have 'it'.
What's 'it'? I can't explain.

When it comes to synths, Absynth has 'it'.
Falcon can do much more, but it does not have 'it'. It's a date with an interesting intellectual talk.
Absynth is pure discovery, each time again...
Not sure if I could have said it any better.

Long live Absynth! :love:
+1 :tu: :clap:

jancivil
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24249 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville

Post Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:01 pm

Melodyshine wrote:
HanafiH wrote:
Melodyshine wrote: It's a known issue, often caused by the effect "Pipe" and Native Instruments doesn't make an update.
That doesn't sound right to me. It sounds more like voice stealing because the polyphonic voice count is too low for the number of incoming notes. When a new note is needed the synth may click, as it steals a voice from the currently playing set, to cover the incoming note.

A pipe effect could drastically extend the release time for every note, making a voice stealing glitch much more probable. Increase the number of voices if you can.
I have increased the polyphony but it doesn't change anything with the preset magnetic ambi.
It's a known issue: http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... p?t=104599
http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... p?t=165341
Well, it looks like the problem is polyphony. I have no experience with that patch, but I've gotten rid of that kind of problem more than once upping the polyphony on my own patches (which are the most rampant CPU consumers probably even possible). IE: it's an issue of too much math at one time for the CPU, not a bug. That thread does not demonstrate any bug, but one guy came away with that notion in the end, still.

jancivil
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24249 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville

Post Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:07 pm

All the so-called alternatives have been things which do one or two things Absynth does, kinda sorta. There is no alternative to it as a whole.

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PatchAdamz
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12622 posts since 13 Nov, 2012

Post Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:42 pm

EvilDragon wrote:To me, Absynth has its own world of sound that is not possible to approximate with any other plugin... So I'd just continue using Absynth.
Well said, Absynth is an island unto itself sonicaly.
For the sound of Absynth, use Absynth.....
(not a bad drink as well.....) :)

Kalamata Kid
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5507 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Post Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:35 am

Don’t consume confuse absinthe with Absynth. This absolutely only happens to absentminded absolutists. It is absurd to think that abstract music can be made in the absence of Absynth. With the absence of Absynth one should abstain from obsessively (o!) making music. If this is too abstruse you are better off to work on your abs.

And if you abstain from demanding Absynth 6 I hope you get a tooth abscess.
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zerocrossing
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12955 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area

Post Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:55 am

ghettosynth wrote:it's filters are both cool, and shit at the same time,
Well said. If there's something I'd like updated, it's the filters. What's there is good for what they are, but can you imagine if they took the Monark models and added them to Absynth? Hell, put them, and all the new Reaktor models, in... and put them in Massive, while they're at it.

Sadly, NI's business model seems to be Reaktor, Kontakt and Maschine based instruments. I still use the old synths. Why not? The reasons I got them in the first place are still valid. Could they use a touch up? Sure, but I'm not holding my breath. I will say that if NI thinks I'm going to upgrade to Komplete 12 from 8, they'd better do a decent update to at least one of those instruments. If not, I'm happy where I am and other developers will get my cash.
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martinjuenke
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6250 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Hanover, Germany

Post Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:06 pm

Kalamata Kid wrote:Don’t consume confuse absinthe and Absynth. This absolutely only happens to absentminded absolutists. It is absurd to think that abstract music can be made in the absence of Absynth. With the absence of Absynth one should abstain from obsessively (o!) making music. If this is too abstruse you better off to work on your abs.

And if you abstain from demanding Absynth 6 I hope you get a tooth abscess.
:clap: :tu: :hyper:

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egbert101
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2419 posts since 13 Jun, 2014

Post Sat Aug 21, 2021 5:32 am

Looking for modern alternatives to Absynth, that aren't a tiny GUI with zero updates. Any new recommendations?
<list all your stupid gear here>

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Biome_Digital
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2343 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide

Post Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:13 am

egbert101 wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 5:32 am Looking for modern alternatives to Absynth, that aren't a tiny GUI with zero updates. Any new recommendations?
It is a bit dated now. I just wish they would actually finish Massive X first! :lol:

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pdxindy
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23093 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Post Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:29 am

egbert101 wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 5:32 am Looking for modern alternatives to Absynth, that aren't a tiny GUI with zero updates. Any new recommendations?
Tone2 Icarus and Plasmonic

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egbert101
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2419 posts since 13 Jun, 2014

Post Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:46 am

Tone2 Icarus and Plasmonic
Two good suggestions. :tu: Going to research a bit more on both.
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egbert101
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2419 posts since 13 Jun, 2014

Post Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:47 am

Biome_Digital wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:13 am It is a bit dated now. I just wish they would actually finish Massive X first! :lol:
Exactly. It still sounds amazing when layering with other synths, but seems a good time to put my energy into something new.
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pdxindy
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23093 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Post Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:24 am

egbert101 wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:46 am
Tone2 Icarus and Plasmonic
Two good suggestions. :tu: Going to research a bit more on both.
Plasmonic is by the original Absynth developer... you can see the visual similarity though it is quite a different synth.

Calypso99
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1 posts since 14 Nov, 2017

Post Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:56 pm

I think the only real lack Absynth presents is the size of the interface. WHY so damned small ?? You can fiddle with Resolution adjusting progs, but the thing should be able to be scaled to full screen (my opinion), but NI has ignored this ever since they released this terrific Synth.

piwhybee
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7 posts since 26 Apr, 2009

Post Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:14 am

Hi,
Here are some news coming from Brian Clevinger at Rhizomatic, the original developer of Absynth. The project could have a rebirth outside of the NI ecosystem ! Read his statement from link below :

https://mailchi.mp/dfcad66b1910/absynth ... 805e256ed1

The article ends with a video where Brian talks about the situation, followed by some music he made with Absynth :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I9Yph0 ... eSynthesis
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