Fabfilter Twin 3 --Released Feb. 7th

[Ploki]

5. No global destination like pitch, osc volume
6. No mod matrix where you could configure all the depth and destinations

And this is personal and objective - not a fan of the filters

What do you mean by 5.?
You can mod all of those.

Agree re: 6.
I wish there was a "mod matrix list" display as a tab optionally.
I like the modulation system, but at one point it just becomes a bit hard to manage.

[plexuss]

First impression: It's sounds nice. The UI is crampped in the osc and filter areas. Not a fan of the bmaniac presets because they are even more basic and the ones that could have been multi-dimensional in terms of textures and movement are very uncohesive. I'd delete the bmaniac presets personally. I think its marginally worth the $45 upgrade just to be up to date. Also its great to FINALLY have NORMAL UI scaling, a ball FF dropped years ago. To me its not worth $130 because there are better options for that kind of money.

The more I work with Twin 3 the more I feel the GUI is not well organized mostly in terms of the size given to visual elements. For example, the filter is one of the primary features, yet the filter visual is cramped in size. The effects controls also take up too much space - both could be optimized to make the filter section larger.
Also the modulation visualization and keyboard at the bottom take up too much vertical space that could be better used. I don't know how FabFilter calls this UI "elegant" and "simple" - it's more of a visual designer's usability nightmare. All the functions are there, they just need a few refinement passes to better optimize the size they are given to correspond better to their importance of their function.

[SLiC]

I don't have any fab filter stuff- I don't get on with the GUI's, tiny text and pop up stuff- shame as its good quality.

You can scale the Twin3 interface - not just make it larger. For me, they've "fixed" that issue that was most prominent in Timeless3.

Thanks- just found that on the demo (scaling up to 125%- other scaling greyed out, maybe a demo limitation) - still a weird GUI if your not used to FF stuff but I can read the test now!

[Gribs]

Upgrade price for me is $51.60. I own licenses for Twin 2, Timeless 3, Volcano 3, and Pro-C2. I will probably upgrade to keep current.

[Lbdunequest]

5. No global destination like pitch, osc volume
6. No mod matrix where you could configure all the depth and destinations

And this is personal and objective - not a fan of the filters

What do you mean by 5.?
You can mod all of those.

Agree re: 6.
I wish there was a "mod matrix list" display as a tab optionally.
I like the modulation system, but at one point it just becomes a bit hard to manage.

Can you printscreen where to find global pitch destination?

[gryzor]

I d liké to see a ONE upgrade with all this fx !!

[aMUSEd]

I don't like the new style interface - you used to be able to adjust everything with the mouse, now it's keyboard modifiers with everything. Don't they realise that means you can't adjust anything without taking both hands off the keyboard? Evidently this was designed by computer nerds, not musicians.

[db3]

First impressions are good. Sounds great to me. UI looks flexible, but will take time to get my head around. Presets are solid with plenty of starting points to adapt or build upon rather than unusable showboating.

[MADMANJ]

I like it, it's the perfect bread and butter synth, good for bass plucks or other basic stuff. Just don't expect a large sound design synth like Pigments. The sound quality is perfect and I love it they used the same filters as in Volcano 3, which is one of my favourite plugins. Yeah they could have stacked it with more features but it has what you need to make basic sounds sound perfect.

[gondii]

I agree the features are underwhelming and the UI and workflow take some getting used to. On the other hand the sound seems really good and that's probably the most important thing.

[Ploki]

5. No global destination like pitch, osc volume
6. No mod matrix where you could configure all the depth and destinations

And this is personal and objective - not a fan of the filters

What do you mean by 5.?
You can mod all of those.

Agree re: 6.
I wish there was a "mod matrix list" display as a tab optionally.
I like the modulation system, but at one point it just becomes a bit hard to manage.

Can you printscreen where to find global pitch destination?

It's a fork
you can assign anything to it. By default it's controlled by Pitchbend.

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I don't like the new style interface - you used to be able to adjust everything with the mouse, now it's keyboard modifiers with everything. Don't they realise that means you can't adjust anything without taking both hands off the keyboard? Evidently this was designed by computer nerds, not musicians.

am i missing something? what do you need the modifiers for aside filterpan

[rardier]

I love everything fabfilter do, but i don t know why i m not attracted by their synth..the workflow seems very good, and the sound might be good (i didn't test it yet so i m cautious with my first impression ) but i don t understand what it brings to the table => what can twin3 do that other synth don t do? or what can twin3 do better ? and what can t twin3 do that other do, is it cheaper than other synth? i m not bashing it but maybe you could help me to see what i am missing..fabfilter i still love u

[bmanic]

Not a fan of the bmaniac presets because they are even more basic and the ones that could have been multi-dimensional in terms of textures and movement are very uncohesive.

.. bait failed.

[Ploki]

I love everything fabfilter do, but i don t know why i m not attracted by their synth..the workflow seems very good, and the sound might be good (i didn't test it yet so i m cautious with my first impression ) but i don t understand what it brings to the table => what can twin3 do that other synth don t do? or what can twin3 do better ? and what can t twin3 do that other do, is it cheaper than other synth? i m not bashing it but maybe you could help me to see what i am missing..fabfilter i still love u

I've been toying with it for the whole day and i can make it sound absolutely gnarlier than any other VA I have or have tried.
Some unison + filter + drive and it sounds completely unhinged.

IMO what sets it apart from the usual suspects is:
- Volcano filters (you either love those or you don't), for me it's a specific flavour that i like very much and i also appreciate there's like 10 different flavours of it.
- very flexible modulation (you can't go as insane as with hive, but going from one source to many destinations for example is much easier than with hive)

The OSC's itself sound very nice. But i think the strength of twin3 is in its filters.
There's also something to be said about timely updates.

It's not cheaper If i were to buy it for full price tho, i'd be more likely to get Hive2 for 20€ more.

But since i use Volcano A LOT, i'd probably still be tempted by this. It sounds nice and fat and fits in the mix really easily and has a decent CPU usage.

[bmanic]

I don't like the new style interface - you used to be able to adjust everything with the mouse, now it's keyboard modifiers with everything. Don't they realise that means you can't adjust anything without taking both hands off the keyboard? Evidently this was designed by computer nerds, not musicians.

What can you not adjust with the mouse?