Any x-y midi pads?

[wilkins_micawber]

I cannot find any x-y midi pads that aren't tied to keyboards. The Korg nanoPAD2 seems like an option, but many reviews say it's innacurate. Anyone else know of any? Might be time for an Arduino DIY project

[whyterabbyt]

QuNeo is one, I guess. 4x4 pad grid, each with pressure and XY, plus multiple other controls.

[Hewitt Huntwork]

It's not very elegant compared to Korg but I wonder if a Keith McMillan Bop Pad could do what you want. Or one of those Roli squares? That I helpfully can't remember the name of?

[wilkins_micawber]

Roli Squares are out of production, I have a Keith MPE keyboard that is very inaccurate as far as x/y and pressure are concerned. Some keys with dead regions, so no Keith stuff for me. Bop Pad is a circle and thus the x/y coordinates won't be 100%, 100% when it should: Cos(45 degrees)/Sin(45 degrees)

[cryophonik]

iPad plus a MIDI controller app (e.g., Lemur)?

[wilkins_micawber]

I don't have an ipad

Did you ever get the touche? I don't understand what the expressions are for that. It seems like the Touche resets all its values to zero when you're not touching it, right? Seems pretty dumb to me, since it's good to be able to stop touching something and not have it change all the values back to some default, like midi knobs or x-y pads. If you stop touching them, the values stay.

At this point I'd get the touche if it did simple x-y.

[cryophonik]

I didn't buy a Touche, but it's still on my wish list. There are a few Touche users here, so hopefully they'll know the answer.

[wilkins_micawber]

I discounted the Ipad answer, perhaps prematurely. Looks like you can use Ipad + usb as a decent x/y controller on windows. May get an older refurbished one.

[vitocorleone123]

Any iOS device from the last several years can run any number of MIDI controllers of all sorts of anything you can think of - and probably more. There’s several “build your own controller” apps as well.

You can use Bluetooth or MIDI over wifi. Or a cable etc.

I bet you can get a used iOS device and everything you need to get it going to accomplish the goal -and more - for the same or less than a dedicated, limited hardware controller.

[Kalamata Kid]

If you are on Windows consider getting an economical multi-touch monitor.
Perhaps a small one.
Then get:
DawSound
https://markderricos.wixsite.com/dawsound
OR
Xotopad
http://feelyoursound.com/xotopad/
Now you can have X-Y pads and all types of midi buttons, keys and faders.

[wilkins_micawber]

If you are on Windows consider getting an economical multi-touch monitor.
Perhaps a small one.
Then get:
DawSound
https://markderricos.wixsite.com/dawsound
OR
Xotopad
http://feelyoursound.com/xotopad/
Now you can have X-Y pads and all types of midi buttons, keys and faders.

I actually just want to control x-y pads in Bitwig, so this turns out to be a great option. Bitwig has multi-touch support, so I can simply drag a Bitwig grid filled with x-y pads to the touch screen.

[Kalamata Kid]

Yes. that will work.
BitWig likely has the best multi-touch support.
Usine Hollyhock, FL Studio and Studio One also have excellent MT support.
If the monitor is large enough open BitWig in it and use the GUI as a control surface.

Click on my signature to see my setup.

I generally only use the MT on plugins and Xotopad keyboard.
I use the mouse on the DAW. My main large monitor is not MT.
Often I touch the DAW but darn it it will not work.

[arvindj]

If you are on Windows consider getting an economical multi-touch monitor.
Perhaps a small one.
Then get:
DawSound
https://markderricos.wixsite.com/dawsound
OR
Xotopad
http://feelyoursound.com/xotopad/
Now you can have X-Y pads and all types of midi buttons, keys and faders.

Are there any multi-touch monitors that support pressure as well as XY input and MIDI controller apps like these that can translate that XYZ input into MIDI CC data?

[SLiC]

EARE is the best X/Y (Z) pad currently available in my opinion....its sop much more than a configurable XY Pad (and you can have lots of them) its a full MPE Controller https://www.embodme.com/erae-touch expensive but it will do everything- X/Y, sliders, keyboard, drum pads sequencers , al configured as you wish with memory for cc and stored on device etc

https://youtu.be/Iqj-Pxk3YW4

[arvindj]

EARE is the best X/Y (Z) pad currently available in my opinion....its sop much more than a configurable XY Pad (and you can have lots of them) its a full MPE Controller https://www.embodme.com/erae-touch expensive but it will do everything- X/Y, sliders, keyboard, drum pads sequencers , al configured as you wish with memory for cc and stored on device etc

https://youtu.be/Iqj-Pxk3YW4

Thanks. This looks great however it does seem to be something like a 40 x 25 grid and I'm looking for something with a lot more precision, minimum 0-127 across a single axis but ideally many more pressure points so that it can output 14-bit midi. So far only the Sensel Morph is capable of this but it's been discontinued.

Hoping to find a multi-touch monitor with similar features somewhere but no luck yet... Lenovo laptops apparently have the Sensel tech built-in so maybe running one of these apps on one of those is the way forward

https://sensel.com/