Auto-Tune inventor Dr. Andy Hildebrand wins Grammy and celebrates with limited time promo price

[donkey tugger]

simply because somebody doesn’t know how to sing.

That's nothing you should hear me play piano.

Sorry.

[revvy]

simply because somebody doesn’t know how to sing.

That's nothing you should hear me play piano.

Sorry.

Sponge. Rusty spanner.

[JamminFool]

jens, i agree with you here, but weren't you on the other side of this argument regarding the Bassline Generator (player) in Reason?

[vurt]

jens, i agree with you here, but weren't you on the other side of this argument regarding the Bassline Generator (player) in Reason?

i guess everyone has their own "line"

[Bombadil]

And for the record, the music I listen to doesn't have any AT at all, because it was all recorded before such 'tools' were invented. And I assure you, every one of those musicians can sing without AT, they could tune their instruments and and keep things organic without click tracks. I don't give a damn about some guitarist I never heard of using it. He could play 32nd note triplets for all I care.
Anyway, I'm out. I really don't appreciate getting flambeed by an admittedly aggressive individual.
And screw the notion of 'I don't need to work on my singing/musicianship because I can fix it with this 'tool' post hoc. I simply don't do that. What happened to perfecting one's craft? Singing lessons are not that hard to find, but it's cheaper and easier to throw a plugin at it.
And now there are 'tools' that write music without any human input. Seems to be a race to the bottom.

[jens]

Sorry you felt 'humiliated.'

You can't humiliate me.

As I said before I do not speak on behalf of myself. I know you whole argument is pure nonsense.

Others, however, might not.

[Bombadil]

Sorry you felt 'humiliated.'

You can't humiliate me.

As I said before I do not speak on behalf of myself. I know you whole argument is pure nonsense.

Others, however, might not.

Go hump an armadillo.

[vurt]

And for the record, the music I listen to doesn't have any AT at all, because it was all recorded before such 'tools' were invented. And I assure you, every one of those musicians can sing without AT, they could tune their instruments and and keep things organic without click tracks. I don't give a damn about some guitarist I never heard of using it. He could play 32nd note triplets for all I care.
Anyway, I'm out. I really don't appreciate getting flambeed by an admittedly aggressive individual.
And screw the notion of 'I don't need to work on my singing/musicianship because I can fix it with this 'tool' post hoc. I simply don't do that. What happened to perfecting one's craft? Singing lessons are not that hard to find, but it's cheaper and easier to throw a plugin at it.
And now there are 'tools' that write music without any human input. Seems to be a race to the bottom.

ignoring all the rest, re that guitarist...
i heartily recommend porcupine tree!!!
he's a great guitarist
seen them live several times, he can walk the walk

[jens]

jens, i agree with you here, but weren't you on the other side of this argument regarding the Bassline Generator (player) in Reason?

Dang! While I can't remember anymore what I wrote, you might have caught me red-handed here.

I am truly sorry if anyone got in the line of fire there - truth to be told I was (and still am) so annoyed at the Props that I didn't really care about collateral damage (Reason was my main DAW).

[Scotty]

I was deep into a study of Schrödinger's cat and consumed with the paradox of quantum superposition when Cher asked what she thought was the ultimate philosophical question ,"Do you believe in life after love?".

I wonder if she gets misty eyed thinking she may have missed posing an even more grand question, "Do you believe in music after Autotune?" . It would have been meta. It could have been profound. We'll never know and for that I shed a tear. If only she could turn back time.

i just wonder, how cher feels about the war she started?

[JamminFool]

jens, i agree with you here, but weren't you on the other side of this argument regarding the Bassline Generator (player) in Reason?

Dang! While I can't remember anymore what I wrote, you might have caught me red-handed here.

I am truly sorry if anyone got in the line of fire there - truth to be told I was (and still am) so annoyed at the Props that I didn't really care about collateral damage (Reason was my main DAW).

ok. no problem. i'm glad to see you recognize the reference. and i respect that you are owning it.

(because i should have used all the arguments you present here against you then. )

[JamminFool]

If only she could turn back time.

i just wonder, how cher feels about the war she started?

[vurt]

I was deep into a study of Schrödinger's cat and consumed with the paradox of quantum superposition when Cher asked what she thought was the ultimate philosophical question ,"Do you believe in life after love?".

I wonder if she gets misty eyed thinking she may have missed posing an even more grand question, "Do you believe in music after Autotune?" . It would have been meta. It could have been profound. We'll never know and for that I shed a tear. If only she could turn back time.

i just wonder, how cher feels about the war she started?

[anttimaatteri]

the guy got a grammy for singlehandedly destroying the art of singing in music?
hahah geez...

[jens]

ignoring all the rest, re that guitarist...
i heartily recommend porcupine tree!!!
he's a great guitarist
seen them live several times, he can walk the walk

I saw them live back in.... '96? I think. It was in a tiny club back then.


If you listen to live versions of Pariah for instance you can hear how they both (but especially Ninet, who has the more demanding part - and yet the comments are full of praise for her skills) have troubles staying in pitch...

https://youtu.be/SoYKAlT-HDI

Compare that to the studio-recording:

https://youtu.be/cNTaFArEObU


No big deal at all.