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DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:28 am comunism has taken over music business!
I had a quick look through 'The State And Revolution', but it was full of stuff about 'the revolutionary vanguard' and suchlike. No mention of pitch correction. :o

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donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:02 am
DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:28 am comunism has taken over music business!
I had a quick look through 'The State And Revolution', but it was full of stuff about 'the revolutionary vanguard' and suchlike. No mention of pitch correction. :o
Doesn't comunism control the voice, people's 's words, no freedom of speech and if a voice doesn't adapt to the system, it will be corrected and tuned to the system' s key? _! And wouldn't they use a voice and its words against the system and tell the people fake news to hide the truth, use their propaganda tools as an effect, tune it to their likes, autotune it, autotune fake ?_!

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DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:15 am
donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:02 am
DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:28 am comunism has taken over music business!
I had a quick look through 'The State And Revolution', but it was full of stuff about 'the revolutionary vanguard' and suchlike. No mention of pitch correction. :o
Doesn't comunism control the voice, people's 's words, no freedom of speech and if a voice doesn't adapt to the system, it will be corrected and tuned to the system' s key? _! And wouldn't they use a voice and its words against the system and tell the people fake news to hide the truth, use their propaganda tools as an effect, tune it to their likes, autotune it, autotune fake ?_!
I fear your grounding in political theory is a little shaky. Come and join us in HPC and I'd be happy to have a full and frank exchange of views on such matters.

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donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:26 am
DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:15 am
donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:02 am
DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:28 am comunism has taken over music business!
I had a quick look through 'The State And Revolution', but it was full of stuff about 'the revolutionary vanguard' and suchlike. No mention of pitch correction. :o
Doesn't comunism control the voice, people's 's words, no freedom of speech and if a voice doesn't adapt to the system, it will be corrected and tuned to the system' s key? _! And wouldn't they use a voice and its words against the system and tell the people fake news to hide the truth, use their propaganda tools as an effect, tune it to their likes, autotune it, autotune fake ?_!
I fear your grounding in political theory is a little shaky. Come and join us in HPC and I'd be happy to have a full and frank exchange of views on such matters.

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It's not about politics and you know it very well. Don't try to fake the fake.
It's about autotune!
And overpolishing and overuse.

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DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:28 am
donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:26 am
DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:15 am
donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:02 am
DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:28 am comunism has taken over music business!
I had a quick look through 'The State And Revolution', but it was full of stuff about 'the revolutionary vanguard' and suchlike. No mention of pitch correction. :o
Doesn't comunism control the voice, people's 's words, no freedom of speech and if a voice doesn't adapt to the system, it will be corrected and tuned to the system' s key? _! And wouldn't they use a voice and its words against the system and tell the people fake news to hide the truth, use their propaganda tools as an effect, tune it to their likes, autotune it, autotune fake ?_!
I fear your grounding in political theory is a little shaky. Come and join us in HPC and I'd be happy to have a full and frank exchange of views on such matters.

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It's not about politics and you know it very well. Don't try to fake the fake.
It's about autotune!
Err, you were the one who was banging on about 'comunism' (sic). :lol:

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donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:31 am
DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:28 am
donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:26 am
DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:15 am
donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:02 am
DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:28 am comunism has taken over music business!
I had a quick look through 'The State And Revolution', but it was full of stuff about 'the revolutionary vanguard' and suchlike. No mention of pitch correction. :o
Doesn't comunism control the voice, people's 's words, no freedom of speech and if a voice doesn't adapt to the system, it will be corrected and tuned to the system' s key? _! And wouldn't they use a voice and its words against the system and tell the people fake news to hide the truth, use their propaganda tools as an effect, tune it to their likes, autotune it, autotune fake ?_!
I fear your grounding in political theory is a little shaky. Come and join us in HPC and I'd be happy to have a full and frank exchange of views on such matters.

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It's not about politics and you know it very well. Don't try to fake the fake.
It's about autotune!
Err, you were the one who was banging on about 'comunism' (sic). :lol:
Just to compare something, not to to start a political discussion. And you have just picked one word of my post, comunism is not what it's all about!
There's too little dust, too little originality, too little dirt, too little creativity and surprises in today's
music imo. This is my opinion!
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DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:34 am

Just to compare something, not to to start a political discussion. And you have just picked one word of my post, comunism is not what it's all about!
I would perchance then suggest you steer away from lumpen-analytical, and simplistic and reductionist analogies and historicist inaccuracy about complex theoretical ideas.

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donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:42 am
DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:34 am

Just to compare something, not to to start a political discussion. And you have just picked one word of my post, comunism is not what it's all about!
I would perchance then suggest you steer away from lumpen-analytical, and simplistic and reductionist analogies and historicist inaccuracy about complex theoretical ideas.
You still try to fake the fake by pretending to think that I really think communism as a political system has taken over music business. Maybe try to find someone else and take him for a fool.

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DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:46 am
donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:42 am
DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:34 am

Just to compare something, not to to start a political discussion. And you have just picked one word of my post, comunism is not what it's all about!
I would perchance then suggest you steer away from lumpen-analytical, and simplistic and reductionist analogies and historicist inaccuracy about complex theoretical ideas.
You still try to fake the fake by pretending to think that I really think communism as a political system has taken over music business. Maybe try to find someone else and take him for a fool.
Cough;
and simplistic and reductionist analogies

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donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:48 am
DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:46 am
donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:42 am
DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:34 am

Just to compare something, not to to start a political discussion. And you have just picked one word of my post, comunism is not what it's all about!
I would perchance then suggest you steer away from lumpen-analytical, and simplistic and reductionist analogies and historicist inaccuracy about complex theoretical ideas.
You still try to fake the fake by pretending to think that I really think communism as a political system has taken over music business. Maybe try to find someone else and take him for a fool.
Cough;
and simplistic and reductionist analogies
Even your "cough" is obviously autotuned or was it a real cough? Lol

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That would be an, "ah, ok I appreciate I've been spouting bollocks, but will obfuscate by a pitiful attempt at wit."

Thanks for popping in.

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SoftSynthLover99 wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 5:45 pm
Scotty wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 4:06 pm Sometimes​, ​ I go to the open mic night and hear someone own the place with an acoustic guitar and a great vocal delivery. There is room for pure artistry​ and masterful musicianship. It is out there, you just need to find your tribe.
Bombadil wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:13 pm I will still maintain that artificially tuning vocals is different from other studio tricks like compression, reverb, delay, or using sample-based instruments. And given popular music's decline over the last 25 years or so, it is a symptom of a larger problem. I mean, there are studies out there that demonstrate how music has become far more homogeneous than it every was, and it is a trend. Lack of imagination and talent permeates the music industry. AT is, imo, just a symptom of that greater problem.
Yep and at the same time if that artist is in the studio, they probably use some form of pitch correction. Not because they can’t sing but because it’s a modern tool that can be used to enhance the overall song.
Yes, and also for a number of reasons I find it much easier to sing to my own acoustic playing that to record to a full band arrangement... (I use acoustic guitar a lot to write my songs, so I know damn well the difference)

I’ve never heard a truly bad singer sound great just by using Auto Tune. It really does not work like that. T-Pain really made Auto Tune a thing, but guess what? He’s an ok singer as well without it (look up his Tiny Desk Concert).

And Auto Tune can be used like Melodyne as well to where the pitch correction is there but no noticeable difference in the singers tonal qualities appear.
Singing is much more than pitch. Power, dynamics and tone cannot be fixed with Auto Tune.
Yes, well-done pitch-correction is a craft that needs to be learned - one could as well blame the one who doesn't use it at all for being lazy and lacking skills. :hihi:

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I f**king hate it when folks who know what they’re talking about post in this thread.

Ruins it.
I lost my heart in Cap de Creus

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DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:28 am
donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:26 am
DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:15 am
donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:02 am
DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:28 am comunism has taken over music business!
I had a quick look through 'The State And Revolution', but it was full of stuff about 'the revolutionary vanguard' and suchlike. No mention of pitch correction. :o
Doesn't comunism control the voice, people's 's words, no freedom of speech and if a voice doesn't adapt to the system, it will be corrected and tuned to the system' s key? _! And wouldn't they use a voice and its words against the system and tell the people fake news to hide the truth, use their propaganda tools as an effect, tune it to their likes, autotune it, autotune fake ?_!
I fear your grounding in political theory is a little shaky. Come and join us in HPC and I'd be happy to have a full and frank exchange of views on such matters.

viewforum.php?f=48
It's not about politics and you know it very well. Don't try to fake the fake.
It's about autotune!
And overpolishing and overuse.
then please stop with the gibberish about religion and politics. and germs and virus exposure.

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JamminFool wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:15 am
DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:28 am
donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:26 am
DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:15 am
donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:02 am
DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:28 am comunism has taken over music business!
I had a quick look through 'The State And Revolution', but it was full of stuff about 'the revolutionary vanguard' and suchlike. No mention of pitch correction. :o
Doesn't comunism control the voice, people's 's words, no freedom of speech and if a voice doesn't adapt to the system, it will be corrected and tuned to the system' s key? _! And wouldn't they use a voice and its words against the system and tell the people fake news to hide the truth, use their propaganda tools as an effect, tune it to their likes, autotune it, autotune fake ?_!
I fear your grounding in political theory is a little shaky. Come and join us in HPC and I'd be happy to have a full and frank exchange of views on such matters.

viewforum.php?f=48
It's not about politics and you know it very well. Don't try to fake the fake.
It's about autotune!
And overpolishing and overuse.
then please stop with the gibberish about religion and politics.
Yes, indeed my complete post is about politics, it's one ironic sentence only.
I agree, how could I dare lol
If someone doesn't know what an apple is,
just give him a pear and tell him it's more or less an apple lol
Sorry, I won't join your attempt to start a political discussion!

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