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[Bombadil]

The substance is the overprocessing of music until it becomes an inorganic, robotic construction. Further, it is about making 'singers' who aren't actually good enough to be lead singers sing, which probably reinforces the Dunning- Kreuger Syndrome.

[El°HYM]

I think he is. Regardless of how outrageous, dumb, absurd and utterly removed from logic, sense and reality a statement you may ever make: there will always be people agreeing with you and some even believing you just said the wisest thing ever.

I believe this might be the wisest statement ever made on kvr.

[Bombadil]

And really, Jens, if you're all that, you should disdain AT. If you're as good as you think you are.

[jens]

I think he is. Regardless of how outrageous, dumb, absurd and utterly removed from logic, sense and reality a statement you may ever make: there will always be people agreeing with you and some even believing you just said the wisest thing ever.

I believe this might be the wisest statement ever made on kvr.

[vurt]

The substance is the overprocessing of music until it becomes an inorganic, robotic construction. Further, it is about making 'singers' who aren't actually good enough to be lead singers sing, which probably reinforces the Dunning- Kreuger Syndrome.

the only issue i take with it, is that he suggests it's all music.
as you know, the pop and vocals arent really where i look for entertainment, but, the past 10/15 years, i have found plenty of great new music that doesn't fit in to his vision of the present.

and when we were younger, there were plenty of local bands, with shite singers, who we would go and watch at local gigs, in the hope of finding the one good act, the rare find.
nothing has changed really, except now you can skip the shit when it starts instead of sitting through another 20 mins.

[vurt]

also, pitch correction started being used in the 60s. after lucy ball had eventide invent something to fix the audio when they sped it up to match the visuals frame rate.

the more you know...

[vurt]

and re jacko and multiple takes...
yes, and then quincy would take a line from this take, a line from that one, an "eeheee" from here, then another line from there ...
and build a whole song from multiple takes, no song you hear by jacko, is a single perfect take.

[jens]

And really, Jens, if you're all that, you should disdain AT. If you're as good as you think you are.

If I am all what?

Why would I disdain it? Honestly: I think it's an enormous (multi-dimensional) sign of weakness of character to perceive things and people that are and behave in opposition to your own perspective and objectives as a threat that needs to be fought against. What an insane waste of energy.

I really don't know (and don't want to know) where you are coming from here. If you were less ignorant*, you would damn well know that every day an enormous variety of (i.e. all imagineable and unimagineable kinds of) music gets released all over the world each day and lots of it is fantastic - and lots of that finds its audience. So why would you care so much about the top 40's?
First of all - as I mentioned before - the charts were never neccessarily of the highest quality. And then: the chance to end up there has always been a fleeting one, so why being bitter about a changed musical landscape that potentially might diminish your theoretical chances to enter the charts? What kind of threat does it seem to pose to you?
Why on earth do you care? What is it to you that others like music you despise?
Make your own music and - if you want this - just put it out there and let folks decide whether it means something to them. And if to many it means something to listen to vocals that may have been autotuned to death and beyond, then so be it. It's their choice to make, not yours, and they are fully entitled to it, regardless of your own opinion. But then again, if you were less ignorant you would damn well know that there's great music entering the charts all the time.
And if you really believed that talent doesn't exist much anymore, then should you not be happy to have less competition nowadays?
So again: why all the hate, the disdain, the smugness? Ask yourself that question. And go make some yoga or something.



*by your own admission you e.g. neither know who Steven Wilson is nor have any interest in changing that. That obvious general lack of interest mixed up with - to quite some extent - unfounded prejudice is what I mean when I use the term "ignorance" here.

[Bombadil]

And really, Jens, if you're all that, you should disdain AT. If you're as good as you think you are.

If I am all what?

Why would I disdain it? Honestly: I think it's an enormous (multi-dimensional) sign of weakness of character to perceive things and people that are and behave in opposition to your own perspective and objectives as a threat that needs to be fought against. What an insane waste of energy.

I really don't know (and don't want to know) where you are coming from here. If you were less ignorant, you would damn well know that every day an enormous variety of (i.e. all imagineable and unimagineable kinds of) music gets released all over the world each day and lots of it is fantastic - and lots of that finds its audience. So why would you care so much about the top 40's?
First of all - as I mentioned before - the charts were never neccessarily of the highest quality. And then: the chance to end up there has always been a fleeting one, so why being bitter about a changed musical landscape that potentially might diminish your theoretical chances to enter the charts? What kind of threat does it seem to pose to you?
Why on earth do you care? What is it to you that others like music you despise?
Make your own music and - if you want this - just put it out there and let folks decide whether it means something to them. And if to many it means something to listen to vocals that may have been autotuned to death and beyond, then so be it. It's their choice to make, not yours, and they are fully entitled to it, regardless of your own opinion. But then again, if you were less ignorant you would damn well know that there's great music entering the charts all the time.
And if you really believed that talent doesn't exist much anymore, then should you not be happy to have less competition nowadays?
So again: why all the hate, the disdain, the smugness? Ask yourself that question. And go make some yoga or something.

Grow up. And screw your ad hominem attacks. You got nothing better?
'All that' refers to 'if you're as talented as you think, why would you want to use such a thing? I am a musician. I've been one for more than 50 years. As a musician, I've watched the trends with dismay, and now, here we are, you flaming me outrageously because YOU don't like what I'm saying. And there's truth to what I say, if you don't get it, that's your problem.
Any musician worthy of the name doesn't need AT. They didn't for centuries, why should they do so now?
May I suggest more fiber in your diet, or maybe get laid?

[JamminFool]

[...] if to many it means something to listen to vocals that may have been autotuned to death and beyond, then so be it. It's their choice to make, not yours, and they are fully entitled to it, regardless of your own opinion.

bingo.

[JamminFool]

here we are, you flaming me outrageously because YOU don't like what I'm saying.

and here you are, flaming others outrageously because YOU don't like their music.

[vurt]

im just gonna say it, id rather use autotune than have my balls chopped off so i can reach the highs

[revvy]

It’s the battle of the Ukrainian flags.

[Bombadil]

here we are, you flaming me outrageously because YOU don't like what I'm saying.

and here you are, flaming others outrageously because YOU don't like their music.

I am defending myself, and voicing my concerns about the direction music has taken.

[Bombadil]

In any case, I've made my point. Carry on.