AI powered plugins

[DCrown]

Which plugins are AI powered and what's your experience?

I know
Sonible, Baby Audio Taip, Atlas and Izotope RX.

Are there so many more? I am asking, because it's a big topic and some are afraid that AI could take over. But I suppose it has not established yet! _?

[El°HYM]

The real Question is, are those really AI or more like Machine Learning or even Neural Networks.

In this case, this might also meet the Criteria.

https://tone-empire.com/shop/neuralq-v2

[DCrown]

I think the smart option of TDR Nova GE is also AI based, it attenuates after a learning process resonating frequencies

[kidslow]

The real Question is, are those really AI or more like Machine Learning or even Neural Networks.

I used to get annoyed by the (mis)use of AI to denote what is really in effect machine learning, but then I had an epiphany. If a machine can learn, is that not a form of artificial intelligence? There is no fighting the popular proliferation of the term AI, so why fight it. The frame of what I used to consider artificial intelligence has now been reframed as artificial general intelligence.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

TONEX from IK uses neural networks to create amp/cab/stomp profiles. I'd qualify that as some kind of AI.

[Cyoon]

Orb plugins – AI Inside your DAW
https://www.orbplugins.com/

[Cyforce]

It`s a weird thing in my eyes, all this "AI-powered"... in some cases probably highly useful - like machine learning, using AI to improve/generate emulating code of filters, schematics, etc - but the other things like "AI inside your DAW" as mentioned from Ilze - what does this exactly mean for the user? Is an external AI/Server always connected to the plugin and actively doing some stuff while using the plugin, or was it just used "a bit" while creating the plugin?

No intention of talking about something in a negative way, but with just a one-line sentence - the user doesn`t really know, what terms this AI-driven plugin makes a difference in or what is the benefit. Without more details etc, it always looks more like a catchy promo sentence :/

[Cyoon]

yea, such marketing slogans don't tell much.

However, if I ask ChatGPT for a music advice, it's quite interesting:

can you suggest a typical drum n bass chord progression that sounds powerfull?

1. Minor key progression: A popular chord progression for drum and bass is the Am-G-F-E progression, which gives a dark and intense vibe.

• Major key progression: A major key chord progression that can sound powerful in drum and bass is the C-G-D-A progression, which gives a bright and uplifting vibe.

• Suspended chord progression: Another chord progression that can sound powerful in drum and bass is the suspended chord progression, such as the Csus2-G-D progression, which gives a dreamy and atmospheric vibe.

It's worth noting that chord progressions in drum and bass are typically accompanied by fast-paced, complex rhythms and high-energy basslines. Experiment with different chord progressions and find what works best for your specific production.

[jules99]

Oeksound Soothe 2 and Spiff for mixing.

XLN XO, Argonaut Atlas 2 and Waves Cosmos for sample-scanning.

Audiomodern Playbeat 3 for beat generation.

Mawf, Neutone and DDSP for experimental tone transfer. Really the whole Goole Magenta suite.

Jamahook for sample selection.

Emergent Drums for drum sample creation. Mace, too.

Samplab for polyphonic editing of audio samples.

Sistema as a one-button soft synth.

Hit 'n Mix as a Remix tool and sample mangler.

Factorsynth 2 (is only a max-for-live device, but will be a VST soon) audio manipulation.

iZotope Ozone 9/10 - Music rebalance.

Serato Studio - stem separation.

[El°HYM]

When reading through the suggestions in here, some might want to think that the 'random' - function inside a VST is also AI?

[DCrown]

I just watched an ad, Magix Songmaker AI is the tool to create hits.
So you know what you have to buy next!

[El°HYM]

So AI is more a kind of marketing Gimmick using Machine generated Code or even Networks. Yet in the end, still just using the same cpu power and specs most people are using. Nothing against smart operations or anything, just my observation of whats actually happening.

[jules99]

Ok, boomers.

[Terrafractyl]

came across this the other day, looks kinda interesting, Free 2!
comes from a google owned research department
first time something Ai for music has looked like more than just a marketing gimmick to me...

https://magenta.tensorflow.org/ddsp-vst

[foosnark]

if I ask ChatGPT for a music advice, it's quite interesting:

I know there's a lot of backlash right now against AI art tools, issues with students and publishers "cheating" by using ChatGPT, etc.

But I feel like one of the most potentially dangerous things is asking ChatGPT for advice.

ChatGPT doesn't know anything. It can't make judgements about factual accuracy or relevance. All it can do is generate bullshit that imitates its training data in style. That training data is a combination of relevant facts, irrelevant facts, incorrect information, opinions presented as if they were facts, deliberate misinformation, lies, and fiction.

You're asking not just some internet rando for advice, but some shlub who you know doesn't know what they're talking about and is just parroting back some stuff they found. Except they might be gathering that stuff from the wrong places.

For a relatively innocent example, I saw someone asking ChatGPT to write a script for Monome Teletype to play a random note sequence. It completely made up syntax (which was wrong), broke basically every single rule of scripting in Teletype, and didn't understand that the module itself doesn't generate sound. But it presented it exactly like an example from an official user manual.