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SHall1000 wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:33 pm
vurt wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:27 pm
SHall1000 wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:24 pm OK. 2600 ordered! Now to order some patch cables.
order more than you think you need.
you're always "one cable short" :)
It’s what lengths to get rather than the quantity. “One short cable” would be as bad as “one cable short”.
you are indeed correct :lol:
i have to use off rack mults to attach two "1 meter" cables.
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SHall1000 wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:33 pm
vurt wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:27 pm
SHall1000 wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:24 pm OK. 2600 ordered! Now to order some patch cables.
order more than you think you need.
you're always "one cable short" :)
It’s what lengths to get rather than the quantity. “One short cable” would be as bad as “one cable short”.
Yes, this is why I was asking how people arrange their modular in larger systems. The approximate square was a popular answer, I'm sure that this is partly why. That said, having more really short cables is important, with respect to the type of modular you have. For the B.2600 you won't need as many super shorties because it's a nicely spaced out system.

There are several systems for connecting cabinets over, e.g., cat 5, between two endpoint modules.

I'm very convinced at this point that I want to work largely in terms of 3u or 6u * 84 HP panels for the most part. Similar to pdxindy's smaller "instrument" cases, but as part of a larger system.

When you're really horizontally spread out, like vurt's system, you don't want to have to make too many end-to-end patch connections.

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vurt wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:07 pm this is why we do it though!!!
click through the records and visual clips, to the full patch.



absolutely amazing!!
(with so few cables too :o )
I had the pleasure several years ago of hanging out and talking shop (mainly about her love/use of MN Maths) with one of those artists, Bana Haffar, at a local shops product "reveal" for Roland and Moog. She was sooo cool!

I'm not a musician, but I've designed sounds that others use to make music. http://soundcloud.com/obsidiananvil

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Shabdahbriah wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:04 pm
vurt wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:07 pm this is why we do it though!!!
click through the records and visual clips, to the full patch.



absolutely amazing!!
(with so few cables too :o )
I had the pleasure several years ago of hanging out and talking shop (mainly about her love/use of MN Maths) with one of those artists, Bana Haffar, at a local shops product "reveal" for Roland and Moog. She was sooo cool!

Well that was pretty good then.

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Blue Marvin arrived! It’s a thing of beauty. Took me an hour to get to play with a keyboard even though I was forewarned. Not used to having to tune oscillators. Sounds nice, so far so good.

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SHall1000 wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 3:12 pm Blue Marvin arrived! It’s a thing of beauty. Took me an hour to get to play with a keyboard even though I was forewarned. Not used to having to tune oscillators. Sounds nice, so far so good.
yay! welcome to the club 8)

hope youre having fun! putting everything through spring reverb i imagine :hihi: i know i did when i got my first real spring :oops:

have you done the r2d2 patch yet? :hihi: (pretty sure that was the 2600?)
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vurt wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:51 pm have you done the r2d2 patch yet? :hihi: (pretty sure that was the 2600?)
It was. :wink:

Congrats on the very well priced score. Happy patching. :D
I'm not a musician, but I've designed sounds that others use to make music. http://soundcloud.com/obsidiananvil

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vurt wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:51 pm have you done the r2d2 patch yet? :hihi: (pretty sure that was the 2600?)
It’s on the list!
I am already thinking of the easiest way to rack it with a row of utility/complimentary modules rather than a second semi modular.
Should have listened to the warnings.

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SHall1000 wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 3:18 pm
vurt wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:51 pm have you done the r2d2 patch yet? :hihi: (pretty sure that was the 2600?)
It’s on the list!
I am already thinking of the easiest way to rack it with a row of utility/complimentary modules rather than a second semi modular.
Should have listened to the warnings.
you still don't have to go overboard.
im going to assume you're thinking filters for a start, the doepfer sem and wasp are both reasonably priced, and give you new character sounds to play with.

several other companies make reasonably priced bits too, it really depends what you are looking to add

but the way you have started, take your time deciding the next bit, as you have a full synth for now, can do plenty already, but over time will realise what's best to add 8)
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Thanks Vurt. Easy advice to follow………….so much choice I wouldn’t know where to start………..and …………got no money anyway. :lol:

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Minibrute 2 or 2S is a good choice to pair with something, since it has plenty of patch points and pretty decent modulation sources and utilities for a semi-modular. It's nice to have an extra utility VCA for instance.

(It is, IMHO, a little weaker in the mixing/crossfading area than I would like, but I'm saying that as someone who has fully embraced modular in both hardware and software.)

I love the sound of West Pest, but it's much more minimal where it comes to modulation sources and there are no extra utilities. So I think it's best to pair it with something that has those it can lean on. Also, mixing the WP's folded oscillator with the Minibrute 2's folded oscillator is super tasty. :D

Of course if you just want to add some extra utility, or another flavor of oscillator, a tiny Eurorack case like the Intellijel Pods can help.


A lot of this is going to come down to personal preference more than just ticking boxes though. Personally I love Make Noise Strega -- it's unconventional but a specialist in exactly the kinds of sounds I like to have in my music.

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Doepfer Wasp and B2600 are made for each other ;) I didn't expected that they will play together that nice when I was buying Wasp filter. MI Ripples is also nice addition.
If you prefer different filters than ladder type in B2600 then adding other ones is inevitable. The nature of ladder filter is not allowing B2600 to fully spread its wings imo

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I have been looking at the Behringer 19 inch Eurorack kit with power supply. Thinking it might fit above or below the 2600. Could they both be mounted safely in a cheap desktop rack frame? Are there any of the right size? After quick search I only found this which I think would only fit the 2600.

https://staggmusic.com/en/products/vie ... equipment/

Really don’t want to spend mega bucks on a fancy case.

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The 2600 is 8U, the 84hp racks are 3u. You can get this, or something like it, in 12u all night all day. I have two racks that are similar.

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https://www.amazon.com/OnStage-RS7030-O ... 149&sr=1-4

That will leave you 1u along the bottom (or top) for a 1u expansion rack should you fill up the 3u rack. I should also mention that if the rod along the top interferes with wiring on the back of your 2600, you can just leave it off, it won't hurt anything with lightweight synth gear.

I use the Behringer racks. They work fine. I also have some of the tip-top z-rails, but I don't have the tip-top power supply.

The tip top z-rails come with a threaded nut strip so that you don't have to line up the nuts. The Behringer comes with individual sliding nuts. Sometimes the nut strips don't line up clearly, so some people prefer individual sliding nuts. The sliding nuts can be a pain line up, especially if you've already racked your rack, so to speak.

The Behringer power supply is much beefier than the tip-top power supply with 1+1+0.5 amps vs 1 amp total.

The TipTop end caps are much bigger and much more suited to putting on the desk. The Behringers are too small for skiff-unfriendly modules. This doesn't matter if you're going to put everything in a rack, I'm just giving you all of the detail.

Of course, the Behringer is $10 cheaper ( in the U.S., I don't know about elsewhere).
Last edited by ghettosynth on Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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yeah, just be careful of depth, some modules require a deeper case, as i discovered after buying a spring reverb :x

and yup, both the b modular rack and 2600 are 19 inch so will fit the rack mentioned above.
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