Modalics - EON-Arp. New (Free!) arpeggiator plugin

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tatanka wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:43 am Seems the pressure on Modalics for the randomizer was not strong enough to make it automatically into the new app :lol:

But really, an arp without randomizer :shrug:

So I am sure it will be in the next bigger update like with Modalics.
We are planning to add step probabilities in a future update.
I do think it's an important topic!

In traditional arps, usually patterns are something "up and down", or maybe 16 steps of a fixed time sequencer. In those arps, your only way to get them to sound interesting/with variation is by using random.

However - unlike traditional Arps, EON has different ways to create deep an interesting variations in a way that isn't random, and allows for much more control than probably most arps out there that have random.

In EON, each step is individually controlled on timing, legnth and velocity, and you can have up to 128 of them - but even that limitation is only if you write quantized and you can actually write however many steps you like and place them anywhere in time. The length of the pattern can also be really long and you could create single patterns that are many bars long before they loop.

Then you have 8 of those patterns, each is completely separate in how it handles length/number of steps, placement of steps, etc.

So, since its free, I'd try browsing through the presets and see for yourself. We're hoping that you will still find enough interest in the patterns even without step probability or a randomizer!
Musician and audio plugins developer. https://www.modalics.com

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innervisions wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:01 am
tatanka wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:43 am Seems the pressure on Modalics for the randomizer was not strong enough to make it automatically into the new app :lol:

But really, an arp without randomizer :shrug:

So I am sure it will be in the next bigger update like with Modalics.
We are planning to add step probabilities in a future update.
I do think it's an important topic!

In traditional arps, usually patterns are something "up and down", or maybe 16 steps of a fixed time sequencer. In those arps, your only way to get them to sound interesting/with variation is by using random.

However - unlike traditional Arps, EON has different ways to create deep an interesting variations in a way that isn't random, and allows for much more control than probably most arps out there that have random.

In EON, each step is individually controlled on timing, legnth and velocity, and you can have up to 128 of them - but even that limitation is only if you write quantized and you can actually write however many steps you like and place them anywhere in time. The length of the pattern can also be really long and you could create single patterns that are many bars long before they loop.

Then you have 8 of those patterns, each is completely separate in how it handles length/number of steps, placement of steps, etc.

So, since its free, I'd try browsing through the presets and see for yourself. We're hoping that you will still find enough interest in the patterns even without step probability or a randomizer!
Thanks a lot for explanation, of course I will try out, maybe my thinking is just a little to gridlocked :lol:

On the other hand......if I remember right I heard the same about Modalics before the 1.2 update so........ 8)

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Only briefly tried this before work. Is it possible to export a midi file in standalone mode so we can save any arp patches when not using this in a daw?

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Samiver wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:42 am Only briefly tried this before work. Is it possible to export a midi file in standalone mode so we can save any arp patches when not using this in a daw?
Unfortunately no. Exporting MIDI from an ARP when you're playing your own chords isn't as straightforward as one might think. To hear something from the arp we need you to actually record/choose some chords in there, which would require quite a lot of DAW-like features like record MIDI, export settings, etc.

We could maybe let you export the result only if you're using the MIDI file option for the input - in that mode we do know how long the file is and how long the arp is. If we'll see that many people use the product like that (standalone + midi files for the chords) we will definitely consider adding something like that - I suspect that use case won't be that common though (but I could be wrong!).

I do think that having an integrated standalone tool that will allow you to record/edit/manipulate/arpeggiate/sequence midi in a standalone will be in our future, just not in a free arp plugin maybe. :)
Musician and audio plugins developer. https://www.modalics.com

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innervisions wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:53 am
Samiver wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:42 am Only briefly tried this before work. Is it possible to export a midi file in standalone mode so we can save any arp patches when not using this in a daw?
Unfortunately no. Exporting MIDI from an ARP when you're playing your own chords isn't as straightforward as one might think. To hear something from the arp we need you to actually record/choose some chords in there, which would require quite a lot of DAW-like features like record MIDI, export settings, etc.

We could maybe let you export the result only if you're using the MIDI file option for the input - in that mode we do know how long the file is and how long the arp is. If we'll see that many people use the product like that (standalone + midi files for the chords) we will definitely consider adding something like that - I suspect that use case won't be that common though (but I could be wrong!).

I do think that having an integrated standalone tool that will allow you to record/edit/manipulate/arpeggiate/sequence midi in a standalone will be in our future, just not in a free arp plugin maybe. :)
Thanks for the quick response, appreciate it.

I only asked as I use reason and live as my daw's. Live can route midi so is fine but reason cannot hence thought I might be able to export from standalone to use there. Not a problem though as worse case scenario I use live and record the midi that way for use in reason.

First impressions of this arp are quite good and thanks for making it free.

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Thanks alot for this arpeggiator, and even for free. It does alot, and it does it in an intelligent way, usable for musicians.
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Website based question, as I can't get to the plugin...

Trying to sign up to access it and there's no CAPTCHA option to begin with. But, after entering my details I get a CAPTCHA error message and the box does then appear. But then, even after ticking the box for that, the same error message still pops up every time I click the Sign Up button.

I've tried several browsers.
Until forever fades away.

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innervisions wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:53 am
Samiver wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:42 am Only briefly tried this before work. Is it possible to export a midi file in standalone mode so we can save any arp patches when not using this in a daw?
Unfortunately no. Exporting MIDI from an ARP when you're playing your own chords isn't as straightforward as one might think. To hear something from the arp we need you to actually record/choose some chords in there, which would require quite a lot of DAW-like features like record MIDI, export settings, etc.

We could maybe let you export the result only if you're using the MIDI file option for the input - in that mode we do know how long the file is and how long the arp is. If we'll see that many people use the product like that (standalone + midi files for the chords) we will definitely consider adding something like that - I suspect that use case won't be that common though (but I could be wrong!).

I do think that having an integrated standalone tool that will allow you to record/edit/manipulate/arpeggiate/sequence midi in a standalone will be in our future, just not in a free arp plugin maybe. :)
If you are going to make the option, please do it for the plugins too. It's so handy in other similar midi plugins that generate sequences to be able to drag the midi right to the track. In the case of EON, it would be great if I could drag a midi clip into EON instead of having to export a midi clip to be able to import it into EON.

Thanks!

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Choikdoi wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:57 am Website based question, as I can't get to the plugin...

Trying to sign up to access it and there's no CAPTCHA option to begin with. But, after entering my details I get a CAPTCHA error message and the box does then appear. But then, even after ticking the box for that, the same error message still pops up every time I click the Sign Up button.

I've tried several browsers.
Sorry about that! Send me a DM with your email and I'll send it to you. :)
Musician and audio plugins developer. https://www.modalics.com

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Something is borked on your site. It wouldn't let me login linking to my gmail account -- nothing at all happened when I clicked.

And it refused to accept the codes that you sent to my email account, twice.

I don't think that I'm special enough for it to be only me.

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GreyLion wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 6:04 am Something is borked on your site. It wouldn't let me login linking to my gmail account -- nothing at all happened when I clicked.

And it refused to accept the codes that you sent to my email account, twice.

I don't think that I'm special enough for it to be only me.
Yes, sorry about that... we have some problems with our website in a few specific places in the world (Canada being a major one). We're working to get it resolved... for now feel free to PM me with your email address and I'll send a license your way!
Musician and audio plugins developer. https://www.modalics.com

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After viewing the video and first try on the app I must say this is really a winner :clap:

I especially love the clear view on the different "sub-presets" patterns and the shear amount of presets showing really what is possible with this arp.

Feeding chords in and recording the midi out from a kontakt midi recorder gives some strange results but in the end for me is not really needed so thats no big problem.

The overall very clear and structured gui is really great.

Still some questions (by the way: is there a manual already ? If must have overseen) popping up but in general very easy and intuitive to use with the presets as starting base :tu:

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tatanka wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:38 am After viewing the video and first try on the app I must say this is really a winner :clap:
Thank you so much!
tatanka wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:38 am Still some questions (by the way: is there a manual already ? If must have overseen) popping up but in general very easy and intuitive to use with the presets as starting base :tu:
Yes, a manual is available here:
https://downloads.modalics.com/EON-Arp/EONArpManual.pdf

And also by clicking "F1" in the plugin itself.
Musician and audio plugins developer. https://www.modalics.com

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innervisions wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:20 pm
Choikdoi wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:57 am Website based question, as I can't get to the plugin...

Trying to sign up to access it and there's no CAPTCHA option to begin with. But, after entering my details I get a CAPTCHA error message and the box does then appear. But then, even after ticking the box for that, the same error message still pops up every time I click the Sign Up button.

I've tried several browsers.
Sorry about that! Send me a DM with your email and I'll send it to you. :)
Thanks, DM sent.
Until forever fades away.

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Hello
How do you recover the midi files?
How do you get the presets without the effects?
Thank you very much

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