Plugin Limit on Mac vs PC

[jones-y]

Workflow ?

A couple of people have mentioned this...surely workflow depends on your application or host program...not the box of tricks running it ?

You can have workflow inside one program, so switching from Logic on OS 9 to Logic on OS X was no change, or workflow between programs.

In that respect OS X would slow me down if I used ridiculous things like the Dock. Hah. Cool demo, lousy product. On the other hand, with LaunchBar I'm much faster than I ever was on OS 9. Just hit Command-Space, type "Word" and it offers me any program or document that could possibly mean "Word". After I tell it once that I mean "MS word", that will next time be top of the list.

This is brilliant. You almost access programs, document, bookmarks, email address, just by thinking about them.

V.

Yeah launchbar is the shizzle. But I was trying to compare OS X to XP in a more or less out of the box config.

RE workflow. The app in question is the primary factor, but the OS comes in a strong second.

[VicDiesel]

There isn't a thing in OSX that wasn't offered by a third party company (and better Implemented) in OS9, except for the Unix underpinnings... Which, if you really get a thrill out of typing arcane commands in the terminal (hey let's go back to the 80s!) you might really like??

You're talking to the wrong person here. I type

setenv ARCH `uname -a | awk '{print $2}' | tr a-z A-Z`

without coming up for breath, and enjoy doing it.

But yeah, Unix is irrelevant to my music making, even though I use nothing but during the day.

V.

[stag]

I LOVE THESE little WARS so much ....yum,yum!!!

Do you think any manufacturer would post a benchmark in which his product loses?

That´s what i keep telling to Steve Jobs & Co.

But you may go to five towers and see for yourself..
Enjoy

[stag]

And simple things, like not listing files based on absolute alpha order:

sample1
sample10
sample100
sample101
.
.
.
sample11
sample111
.
.
.

OS X lists them logically.

sample1
sample2
sample3
.
.
.
sample100
sample101
.
.
.

Not trying to attack OSX (believe me, I could...), both ways are configurable on XP - by default it's the former, but using MS's TweakUI, you can set it to be the latter.

Think you need SP1 or SP2 though (ie. not vanilla XP).

Ah - someone beat me to it

you don´t need Tweakui(albeit a great app).
just run mmc and iniciate local group policy ,you´ll see how customizable is XP.
i even can get Cubase to be my shell ...no time to loose
no resources to share...but with modern machines that´s overkill ,i don´t bother to tweak my system anymore.

[DHR53]

Unix is irellevant to my music making, Graphic designing, Printing, and basically everything I do... And DID for the last 20 years!

Remember when Macs were "computers for the rest of us?"

(setenv ARCH `uname -a | awk '{print $2}' | tr a-z A-Z`)

Klaatu... Barada... Nikto!

[jdg]

Unix is irrelevant to my music making

not mine. i use shell scripts and various GNU based apps all the time to write music.

and i'm not alone.

OSX is trully amazing.

i love it so much...

also i can run thousands of pluggos at once. (i can't be arsed to read the whole f**king thread if someone made this joke already )

[BONES]

This site is very slow of late.

[BONES]

.. now you´re even getting childish. if you would have to use the dock for more than a few hours you´d get used as everybody else. so even you would be able to manage it.

but most of all: just dont use a mac, bones.

putte

Unfortunately I don't always have a choice. I just spent 3 weeks teaching a course on Mac and I never got used to it. And that's after spending a whole day recently doing software demos on a new 17" G5 iMac, which I have to say was a total piece of krap. Two of the three places I regularly teach at use Mac so I get to spend enough time on them to make a reasonably informed judgement. If people said they used a Mac because it was what they were used to I would have no problem but when they try to convince us that there is any advantage to it, they are pushing shit up-hill.

[DHR53]

Shell scripts to write music... This is turning ridiculous! ...Now I know who the Mac user of the future is

[jones-y]

If people said they used a Mac because it was what they were used to I would have no problem but when they try to convince us that there is any advantage to it, they are pushing shit up-hill.

So then, the logic is that there is no advantage to using a Mac. Which implies all advantages lie with using a PC.

Is this a defensible position? Really?

[Sascha Franck]

So then, the logic is that there is no advantage to using a Mac.

Well - there is an advantage... LogicPro that is.
And that would be it for me.

OK, system maintainance is a bit easier as well, the same goes for internet security - but these are no issues for me under Windows either because I know what I'm doing (admittedly, chances are quite higher that a newbie will f**k of a Windows system than, say, OSX, just because of some internet attacks and the likes).

I am working with OSX quite sometimes and completely fail to see any advances of the OS per se.
In fact, the only thing I want from an OS is proper driver support - and XP isn't all that bad regarding certain generic drivers, such as for monitors, printers, etc. (OSX is a tad ahead, but hey...), for soundcards you need specialized drivers anyways.
Oh, and proper file management. Finder is just pathetic IMO. Overview is f**ked up georgously, space is wasted everywhere and file organization looks quite funny too. Gimme Windows' explorer ANY day! But as usual, YMMV.

BTW, how do I drag an aiff/wave file from finder onto Kontakt when running it in Logic?
As soon as I activate the finder window, Kontakt (which before was floating inside Logic) isn't visible anymore, and dragging the file onto the dock or into Logic won't bring it up either.
Any secret tricks, such as a key combo you need to press?
Under Windows, Kontakt just stays visible and the only thing I need to to is to drag my wavefiles into the host program window, then onto Kontakt.

[egbert]

If people said they used a Mac because it was what they were used to I would have no problem but when they try to convince us that there is any advantage to it, they are pushing shit up-hill.

So then, the logic is that there is no advantage to using a Mac. Which implies all advantages lie with using a PC.

That is a logical fallacy. If two things are "much of a muchness" there is no advantage to either. Refuting the claim that there is an advantage to one implies nothing about advantages of the other.

Is this a defensible position? Really?

Yours, or your straw man's?

Eg

[Kim Lajoie]

BTW, how do I drag an aiff/wave file from finder onto Kontakt when running it in Logic?
As soon as I activate the finder window, Kontakt (which before was floating inside Logic) isn't visible anymore, and dragging the file onto the dock or into Logic won't bring it up either.
Any secret tricks, such as a key combo you need to press?

Use command-tab to switch applications.

1) Switch to Finder.
2) Locate file and "pick it up" (hold down mouse button)
3) Hold Command and tap tab (until Logic is selected).
4) Release tab, Logic appears, drop the file in Kontakt.

It's actually faster than it sounds.

And I prefer Finder over Windows Explorer.

Forever,




Kim.

[Sascha Franck]

Use command-tab to switch applications.

Thanks - I think I knew that one allready...

1) Switch to Finder.
2) Locate file and "pick it up" (hold down mouse button)
3) Hold Command and tap tab (until Logic is selected).
4) Release tab, Logic appears, drop the file in Kontakt.

Thanks again, will try.

[putte]

my desicion to go mac, after coming from an atariST, was simply based on .. errr .. "karma".

i always saw these windows machines, and simply couldnt stand their charme, look and feel. then i saw the macOS and thought "ah, i like it". then i went out and bought a mac. so my reason for being on a mac is simply cause i dont want a pc.

but then again i know that it doesnt matter what computers people use. if they can do what they want to do its nothing but a matter of getting used to the thing one has .. be it a mac, or a pc.

people in this thread using their pc´s like what they have,
people in this thread using their macs like what they have.

actually a tiptop situation .. no?

putte