UVI Percussion Factory released

[noiseboyuk]

Thanks! For non-Falcon owners, do you know if you get access to the sample files to use with other software?

No.

[kvrmao]

Round Robin are random so a MIDI file would not be able to compensate for this.

I don't see anything on the website or PDF or reviews that mention Round Robins or even Velocity Layers. I know there is velocity modulation of the filter so that you can add some variation to reduce machine gunning.

I noticed one good feature, you can import your own samples!

But how are the samples stored, are they stored in a preset? Also can you apply the velocity/filter parameters on user samples just like with the on board samples? Otherwise you are going to get bad machine gunning. Now if you could drop in an SF2 or SFZ with layers - but as much as I like this capability, it is rarely offered by any developer as much as it should.

It does appear that MIDI export and even the recording of MIDI output is not available in the standalone version. (I suppose this means that you can't play the percussion with an external controller such as pads, for example.- Corrected, you can.) I'm not saying that there isn't still a great deal of worth here - I love UVI products, have a bunch - but just that it doesn't bring enough to the table for me with my current posse of plugs.

[rasmusklump]

You can play the individual sounds with your keyboard or a controller.

[kvrmao]

You can play the individual sounds with your keyboard or a controller.

Right... of course you can - not sure what I was thinking there. So that means that you can sequence the percussion with an external sequencer. And you you can trigger the instrument sequences that you program with an external keyboard or controller. But as far as exporting the sequences created with the plugin... probably not.

[danielh02]

Right... of course you can - not sure what I was thinking there. So that means that you can sequence the percussion with an external sequencer. And you you can trigger the instrument sequences that you program with an external keyboard or controller. But as far as exporting the sequences created with the plugin... probably not.

Yeah, while this is a great sounding library, I think there's some misses.

- No drag/drop MIDI to DAW (not really expected with Falcon)
- No saving of presets
- You should be able to store pattern variations in keys D1 through B1

I still bought it, but I hope they continue to expand the functionality.

-Dan

[Kypresso]

Looks cool but i'm fed up with having to buy your expansions without being able to demo them.

So i'm not going to buy this or anything else from uvi until you supply demoes.

Ilok makes it possible to do time limited demoes so why wont you do that?

[markfranklin]

I just purchased Percussion Factory and while it is an interesting tool I can not seem to make it sync to Reaper as a plugin even though I have checked SyncToHost and Autoplay, It does not play along with previously recorded tracks...

[Octave_Jumper]

I just purchased Percussion Factory and while it is an interesting tool I can not seem to make it sync to Reaper as a plugin even though I have checked SyncToHost and Autoplay, It does not play along with previously recorded tracks...

I believe there's a certain midi note that you have to paint onto the timeline to trigger the sequence (c4 I think). You can trigger each instrument loop separately as well - this should all be visible on the vst keyboard.

UVI stuff doesn't sync to DAW transport automatically ( I believe it's a limitation of the current engine).

[Dombaeb]

Welcome to the club! I purchased Drum Designer and discovered that there is no way to sync transport with DAW… how strange is that not to have this ability in drum and percussion soundbanks, but this is surrealistic reality of UVI libraries.

If you ask me, I’m sure that UVI should fix that no matter how, or at least give big bold warning about DAW sync disability on each percussion libraries page, it’s very major

I just purchased Percussion Factory and while it is an interesting tool I can not seem to make it sync to Reaper as a plugin even though I have checked SyncToHost and Autoplay, It does not play along with previously recorded tracks...

[twal]

I really enjoy the sounds in this but I wanted to ask if Drum Empire by Melda has most of the sounds.

[markfranklin]

Octave_Jumper, thanks for the tip, exploring that option was going to be my plan. It does seem utterly ridiculous that a drum program cannot actually sync to the music... All the cool features only make sense to me if I am jamming along with previous tracks!

Dombaeb, it is indeed very strange, I wonder what technical problem is preventing this simple fix... I am now wondering if I can return for a credit and buy something else from them.

[kvrmao]

I purchased Drum Designer and discovered that there is no way to sync transport with DAW… how strange is that not to have this ability in drum and percussion soundbanks, but this is surrealistic reality of UVI libraries.

Yup. It will sync but just won't start and stop with the transport. You've got to play it with notes controlling the sequences as shown in the attached keyboard in the interface. I don't own this particular product, but that's the way it is with other libraries by UVI. So if you record the proper note at the beginning of a your song or at a measure and have that MIDI going into UVI workstation, it will play and sync from that point forward.
Unless I'm wrong and then someone will tell me...
Oh... I see Octave-Jumper already spelled this out.

There is another solution that's only a bit janky. You can use the fabulous FREE NoteMapper by CodeFN42 to map any note to the transport in UVI Workstation - just right click on the transport arrow to assign. This way you don't have to target an exact sequence but rather it will just start the UVI transport. The screenshot below shows the setting in NoteMapper to start/stop the UVI transport with C0 and D0 once it's assigned to CC64. Of course you can use any input notes you want. I'm assigning CC64 to the transport because that is damper pedal which is an on/off type of controller.

You can also just set NoteMapper to convert a single note as a toggle using CCT which will toggle on/off the transport:

[markfranklin]

That is great! Fantastic, thank you for the info!

[Hettoblaster]

RE: Sync to DAW;

Baffled right now and confused..
Is the problem with all DAW's then? (or only Reaper)

Octave Jumper's "...paint onto the timeline to trigger the sequence (c4 I think)..."
method does not obey to 'start/stop' ?

I'll ben on Logic Pro M1, so can't use 'note mapper'.

I think i'll pass if the plugin doesn't simply sync to Logic tempo and listens to start/stop etc....

Thanks.

EDIT: had a go through the manual, but can't find any info on "SyncToHost and and Autoplay"??

[kvrmao]

Octave Jumper's "...paint onto the timeline to trigger the sequence (c4 I think)..."
method does not obey to 'start/stop' ?

You can still play the sequences in sync with your DAW but you have to play notes to play the sequences. The notes that trigger the percussion sequences are indicated in the lower attached keyboard which is part of all UVI libraries. There are pluses and minuses with this system. On the plus side, it lets you have different sequences available to play at the press of a key without having to add a program change command. On the downside, it requires notes to be recorded in order to play a sequence in sync.

I'll ben on Logic Pro M1, so can't use 'note mapper'.

I would imagine you could latch/bind a CC or note within Logic to control the transport by assigning its CC in UVI - the same way I mentioned doing it with NoteMapper.

I think i'll pass if the plugin doesn't simply sync to Logic tempo and listens to start/stop etc....
EDIT: had a go through the manual, but can't find any info on "SyncToHost and and Autoplay"??

The sync and autoplay is part of the UVI Workstation interface which UVI libraries load into. It's the same relationship Kontakt has with it's libraries. You'll find it in the upper right of the window.