Should I buy a DAW or use AI to make my music?

[seismic1]

I'be ben tinking about becoming an music producer for years now

Me too

[seismic1]

On the other hand, you could try your hand at Science Fiction:-

https://techcrunch.com/2023/02/21/clark ... bmissions/

[Schnickschnack]

The only reason why everyone has fear of or is triggered by AI is because they are dumb and uncreative.
There, I said it.

Think about it.

[kritikon]

I don't fear AI, and likely the older ones amongst us are the same. "Triggered" is a Millenial/GenZ thing so I can't speak for them - though the multitudinous things that "trigger" Millenial/GenZ is likely unfathomable anyway - wrong-faced emojis, anything to do with the weather, spiders?

You said it, wow. Do you feel better? Though I dunno why saying that is such a monumental thing?

Think about it? No. I have better things to occupy myself with. Not worth thinking about. I make music because I like doing it, whereas if people who don't like making music want to do it with AI, then good luck to them. Though I fail to grasp why anyone not wanting to make music in the first place would suddenly want to make music just because they can use AI to do it. I don't like hammering nails into my foreskin - Ooh, I discovered I can put nails through my foreskin with a stapler instead so all of a sudden I want to put nails through my foreskin! Doesn't really compute, does it?

[whyterabbyt]

The only reason why everyone has fear of or is triggered by AI is because they are dumb and uncreative.
There, I said it.

Yay, you said a dumb and uncreative thing. Congrats.

[vurt]

The only reason why everyone has fear of or is triggered by AI is because they are dumb and uncreative.
There, I said it.

Think about it.

no, im fearful of ai, because i saw terminator at a tender age
and because my real name is john connor!
you try going to bed at 7 after seeing your mum hunted by a robot

[vurt]

then as an adult i change my name to neo anderson and the bloody matrix comes along.
go on! tell me im paranoid, but it's looking suspiciously like im f**ked once ai happens!!!

[vurt]

and automatic doors often won't open for me bastard skynet

[Schnickschnack]

The only reason why everyone has fear of or is triggered by AI is because they are dumb and uncreative.
There, I said it.

Think about it.

no, im fearful of ai, because i saw terminator at a tender age
and because my real name is john connor!
you try going to bed at 7 after seeing your mum hunted by a robot

Now I get your music.

[BONES]

Music written by AI isn't yours. It's written by AI.

Just like any cover version you do. Most people won't care if it's good.

Are you a musician or what?Than it is YOU who should make the music.

So George Harrison shouldn't have played on songs written by Lennon/McCartney?

Music is written and created by a spirit and his love. Thats what you find in music. Spirit and love.

What a load of bollocks. You'll find none of that on any of our chart-toppers.

AI does not have any of both.

It does if you tell it to.

The entire idea nauseates me. AI generated music may not have any soul, but that doesn't mean people won't project their own toward it. Whatever. I won't be listening to it.

Why not? If it's good music, why does it matter where it comes from ? We're already working on a side-project with AI generated lyrics and vocals. It's f**king great! We could probably put out 3 or 4 albums a year if we wanted to. The more good music that's out there, the better, surely?

I don't believe AI will allow you to be as expressive as you may want to be as a producer of music. Just imagine how much of a headache it would be to change one little thing if you're using AI. Would you have to recompile the whole prompt to change a minor detail on a single instrument? Sounds like a headache in the making. Now in terms of inspiration, maybe AI can give you a general template to run off of

The whole idea, as I see it, is so you don't have to do any of that if you don't want to. Just get it to keep iterating until you're happy. That's what we do with ChatGPT - we get it to "regenerate" 3 or 4 sets of lyrics, then we mix 'n' match to get one strong set that we are happy with. A few tweaks here and there and it's at least as good as anything I'd write.

Anyway, I say BRING IT ON! I just used Soundraw to generate something and the first 8 tracks it generated sounded better than half the krapola I hear in the Music Cafe here. Half of them sounded like remixes of the first one but a couple were different and kinda cool/useful. If you could be bothered, you could make something passable out of it. And, as the fat nerdy loser in the video said half-a-dozen times, this is what it's capable of today, imagine how much better it will be in a year, two years, 5 year's time!?!

After all, we've already replaced drummers with drum machines and musicians with samplers and sequencers, it's about time writers and producers got a taste of what that feels like, don't you think?

[vurt]

Music written by AI isn't yours. It's written by AI.

Just like any cover version you do. Most people won't care if it's good.

Are you a musician or what?Than it is YOU who should make the music.

So George Harrison shouldn't have played on songs written by Lennon/McCartney?

Music is written and created by a spirit and his love. Thats what you find in music. Spirit and love.

What a load of bollocks. You'll find none of that on any of our chart-toppers.

AI does not have any of both.

It does if you tell it to.

The entire idea nauseates me. AI generated music may not have any soul, but that doesn't mean people won't project their own toward it. Whatever. I won't be listening to it.

Why not? If it's good music, why does it matter where it comes from ? We're already working on a side-project with AI generated lyrics and vocals. It's f**king great! We could probably put out 3 or 4 albums a year if we wanted to.

I don't believe AI will allow you to be as expressive as you may want to be as a producer of music. Just imagine how much of a headache it would be to change one little thing if you're using AI. Would you have to recompile the whole prompt to change a minor detail on a single instrument? Sounds like a headache in the making. Now in terms of inspiration, maybe AI can give you a general template to run off of

The whole idea, as I see it, is so you don't have to do any of that if you don't want to. Just get it to keep iterating until you're happy. That's what we do with ChatGPT - we get it to "regenerate" 3 or 4 sets of lyrics, then we mix 'n' match to get one strong set that we are happy with. A few tweaks here and there and it's at least as good as anything I'd write.

Anyway, I say BRING IT ON! I just used Soundraw to generate something and the first 8 tracks it generated sounded better than half the krapola I hear in the Music Cafe here. Half of them sounded like remixes of the first one but a couple were different and kinda cool/useful. If you could be bothered, you could make something passable out of it. And, as the fat nerdy loser in the video said half-a-dozen times, this is what it's capable of today, imagine how much better it will be in a year, two years, 5 year's time!?!

After all, we've already replaced drummers with drum machines and musicians with samplers and sequencers, it's about time writers and producers got a taste of what that feels like, don't you think?

whatever happened to fun? where's the fun in letting a machine do it all?

i get the lyrics thing you're doing, using it as a starting point, but there is some human involvement in choosing the final draft
even using it to do some bits a la orions note randomiser, all these are just initial starting points though.

the proposal here is becoming a producer, by employing an ai.
it just kinda seems pointless.
unless the object is money/clicks without any effort?

[Artie Fichelle]

Bones is right, if you like it or not.
But, AI music I found, is a a great help for us. Because, it can start something, that we shape to our tastes and knowledge. It is a tool, nothing more, nothing less.

[Artie Fichelle]

And to precisely answer the question: get Wotja and Reaper, learn both well, and you have it.

[Jac459]

It is a tool, nothing more, nothing less.

Well, in the context of this forum and discussion, you are kind of right, if we rewind us 6 months ago, when chatGPT was not a thing and we were impressed by Izotope's nice but limited attempt to have AI helping us decide about our mix or master.

If you exit the limited context of music and talk about AI as a tool. It is like comparing a car and a horse. Or it is like gun powder compared to swords... It is a tool, yes, but a paradigm changing tool.

AI is a new revolution like our grand grand grand parents whitnessed with the Industrial Revolution in UK.
It will make a large part of us jobless and will create other jobs...
And in this context, music making is the least of our concern .

[Artie Fichelle]

Beeing jobless is the least I care, and yes, AI can produce music people will like. But as there is no substitute for fire, there is no subsistute for me making sounds and playing music for me. It is like cooking yourself for yourself or cooking for others. The latter AI comes in.