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Bippo · Post by **Bippo** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 4:13 pm

Hello, I've got a quick question:

Is it possible to select a group of notes in the midi editor, keep the whole group highlighted, but only change the velocity of a single note each time?

I've used to do it in FL Studio but I have no idea how to do it in pro tools...

Bippo · Post by **Bippo** » Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:29 pm

Well I thought I'll add a screenshot to clarify myself :

ptpianoroll.jpg

basically what I'm trying to do is to only change the velocity of the first highlighted note, without effecting the rest of them.

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:17 pm

It's been many years since I've used PT, but I believe you should be able to edit the single note in the MIDI Event view without affecting the other notes. I don't know/recall if it can be done in the PRV, but possibly with a modifier (e.g., CTRL/CMD/ALT/FN, maybe in some combination)?

ReverbHead · Post by **ReverbHead** » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:31 am

Yes it is possible.

Increase velocity by five
Command+Up Arrow

Decrease velocity by five
Command+Down Arrow

Increase velocity by fifteen
Command+Shift+Up Arrow

Decrease velocity by fifteen
Command+Shift+Down Arrow

If you are on Windows use Control instead of Command.

Bippo · Post by **Bippo** » Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:25 pm

Thanks for the reply.

ReverbHead · Post by **ReverbHead** » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:23 pm

Out of sheer curiosity, what is it you cannot do in Pro Tools midi-wise?

Bippo · Post by **Bippo** » Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:16 pm

Everything is doable I guess, but it does take time to get use to it after years of working with a different daw

ReverbHead · Post by **ReverbHead** » Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:56 am

Got it

Spencer Maddox · Post by **Spencer Maddox** » Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:54 pm

The strange thing for me with pro tools is it theoretically does most of what you want for a MIDI sequencer but it's still so clunky in ways thats Difficult to explain compared to programs like Cubase and Logic.
I can't quite put my finger on what I don't like about the Pro Tools Midi workflow other then the fact that it just doesn't work for me.

Bippo · Post by **Bippo** » Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:30 pm

Spencer Maddox wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:54 pm The strange thing for me with pro tools is it theoretically does most of what you want for a MIDI sequencer but it's still so clunky in ways thats Difficult to explain compared to programs like Cubase and Logic.
I can't quite put my finger on what I don't like about the Pro Tools Midi workflow other then the fact that it just doesn't work for me.

Exactly.
Eventually it feels like a struggle compared to FL Studio or Cubase. With those daws everything just flows better when dealing with midi...the whole ux feels more intuitive and straightforward.

macmuse · Post by **macmuse** » Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:53 am

Bippo wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:30 pm Exactly.
Eventually it feels like a struggle compared to FL Studio or Cubase. With those daws everything just flows better when dealing with midi...the whole ux feels more intuitive and straightforward.

I’ve heard for years about how FL’s MIDI /piano roll is so good. I am familiar with Cubase. I’d be interested to know how Cubase MIDI compares to FL Studio (since you mentioned them together).

Bippo · Post by **Bippo** » Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:40 pm

macmuse wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:53 am
Bippo wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:30 pm Exactly.
Eventually it feels like a struggle compared to FL Studio or Cubase. With those daws everything just flows better when dealing with midi...the whole ux feels more intuitive and straightforward.
I’ve heard for years about how FL’s MIDI /piano roll is so good. I am familiar with Cubase. I’d be interested to know how Cubase MIDI compares to FL Studio (since you mentioned them together).

I guess it's purely subjective, but I've found the FL's piano roll the most intuitive and easy to operate than every other daw I've tried, including Cubase.
The layout itself is very neat, the whole operation of selecting/dragging/transposing/cutting/drawing/deleting/etc midi notes is very easy and straightforward.
On the other hand, I've probably spent more time in FL's piano roll than any other piano roll...so it may be just that, that I've had more experience with it and it feels more comfortable.
I guess the best way is to try for yourself, image-line offers a free trial version

macmuse · Post by **macmuse** » Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:57 pm

Good to know, thanks! Does FL’s do things that are not possible (or are harder to do) in others DAWs like Cubase? My interpretation from comments about how good the piano roll was that it was, and I was always curious as to how it stacked up. I did see a video about the ease of conforming midi notes to fit a tempo (like if played without a click), whereas others want to write a tempo map for it. That was impressive do I wondered if there were more features like that.

Bippo · Post by **Bippo** » Tue Feb 28, 2023 7:33 pm

Well, for instance, in FL Studio you can have a workflow of patterns.

You can program your drums in one pattern that include several channels:

chrack.jpg

And arrange them however you want in the playlist:

workflow.jpg

Of course, you can also split it very easily and have a unique strip in the playlist for every channel:

split.jpg

grid.jpg

It's highly flexible in ways that doesn't exists in "typical" daws such as cubase/pro tools.
However, while it really excels in midi, I think that if you have a project with mainly live audio recordings, daws such as pro tools or cubase are far better for that.

macmuse · Post by **macmuse** » Tue Feb 28, 2023 8:11 pm

Yes I agree, Pro tools or Cubase are great for audio. I do my mixing in pro Tools, it’s my favorite for that. I don’t mind PT MIDI, it’s fine, but not as robust.

Thanks for your posts. Really interesting, I’m going to look into that. Probably if one started with FL, patterns would feel natural but I would think it might take a new mindset for those like me who have been used to tracks/linear arrange windows, but this concept might also fuel a different way of writing too which could be cool.

Editing midi in Pro Tools