Should I buy a DAW or use AI to make my music?

[JerGoertz]

All the music I've heard by AI so far sounds like shit. It's either generic schlock or absolutely unlistenable "abstract" mess.

I'm sure it will get better, tho. Unfortunately.

[lobanov]

To make a cover I must play any instrument or use DAW.

Or go to a Karaoke bar.

But I will SING there. By my own voice.

And I inevitably make my own version of this song.

Just as you tell the AI to make a song for you, using very specific instructions. It won't offer 100 other people exactly what it gives you, it will be uniquely yours.

Is AI sort of an instrument for algorithmic music? If I can tell to AI such things, OK.

Why am I needed if AI does it all instead of me?

Why do you care if you are needed or not?

You don't understand my point. People could push a knob and generate music using AI themselves. Without me.

Am I just sort of a gasket between AI and someone else? Which is my role in the process?

You're the guy who tells the AI what you want it to do. It's no different to programming a sequencer, really. You can have as much or as little control as you want.

If I can, OK.

And what we, humans, live for?

That would be the beach, wouldn't it?

No. The beach isn't the stage. We swim and sunbathe there. I know, we can play music on the beach but doing this way we turn the beach into the stage. Why should we bother?

[BONES]

But I will SING there. By my own voice.

If you want vocals in your AI generated music, you'll also have to sing them yourself, or get a different AI to do that for you.

Is AI sort of an instrument for algorithmic music? If I can tell to AI such things, OK.

It's a lot more sophisticated than that but it's definitely along the same lines.

You don't understand my point. People could push a knob and generate music using AI themselves. Without me.

There are a million people writing songs without you everyday. A few more won't matter.

If I can, OK.

It's a different process, and not at all musical, but the more you put in, the better the results will be. My bandmate has been doing some amazing things with AI. (I assume it's so he can dump me. Can't blame him, really.)

[vurt]

"why would i give you money, for something i can do myself?"
So you haven't bought any music since you first picked up an instrument yourself? Because I still spend way more money buying music than I do buying plugins.

Ultimately, it depends how you choose to interpret the OP's post. I read it as him wondering if any effort he put into learning music production might ultimately be wasted if AI comes in and takes over in the next few years. To me that seems like a reasonable concern.

"i do like the idea of humans performing ai written pieces"
I find that a very strange and arbitrary line to draw. You're happy to use sequencers and arpeggiators to play your music, but you want AI written music to be played by people. I see no difference. I'd love to go and see a Max Headroom like AI performance of AI written music. You have to think that is only a few years away.

i wasn't so much drawing a line, as giving an example of something i think could be interesting
human composers understand the limits of human players, ai doesn't, so may try things that have never been tried before with a particular instrument
pushing for example, a guitarist to play things most guitarists have never imagined. it may open new doors.

you want a full computer performance, it's already happening, miku is animated and vocaloid.
and ive seen elvis, as a hologram. (working wouldn't have paid to even see the real guy)

[Jac459]

i wasn't so much drawing a line, as giving an example of something i think could be interesting
human composers understand the limits of human players, ai doesn't, so may try things that have never been tried before with a particular instrument
pushing for example, a guitarist to play things most guitarists have never imagined. it may open new doors.

you want a full computer performance, it's already happening, miku is animated and vocaloid.
and ive seen elvis, as a hologram. (working wouldn't have paid to even see the real guy)

Today, most of the AI algorithms are based on mass ingestion of data, learning from these sets of data and creating patterns.
So, by definition, an AI will reproduce what it has learned and thus I don't think it will very much go out of its boundaries. So basically if the dataset it has used takes into account the limits of human players, there is good chance that it will reproduce these limitations...

[vurt]

i wasn't so much drawing a line, as giving an example of something i think could be interesting
human composers understand the limits of human players, ai doesn't, so may try things that have never been tried before with a particular instrument
pushing for example, a guitarist to play things most guitarists have never imagined. it may open new doors.

you want a full computer performance, it's already happening, miku is animated and vocaloid.
and ive seen elvis, as a hologram. (working wouldn't have paid to even see the real guy)

Today, most of the AI algorithms are based on mass ingestion of data, learning from these sets of data and creating patterns.
So, by definition, an AI will reproduce what it has learned and thus I don't think it will very much go out of its boundaries. So basically if the dataset it has used takes into account the limits of human players, there is good chance that it will reproduce these limitations...

today's ai yes, mostly it's really machine learning, but we don't know what will be possible in a few years/decades.

but yes, you are correct regards the datasets, im not a computer person, so im not sure how this could be remedied, with today's ai?
unless we feed it all the recordings from people trying their first guitar (im including myself here btw)

[Jac459]

today's ai yes, mostly it's really machine learning, but we don't know what will be possible in a few years/decades.

but yes, you are correct regards the datasets, im not a computer person, so im not sure how this could be remedied, with today's ai?
unless we feed it all the recordings from people trying their first guitar (im including myself here btw)

Yeah, fully agree... (count me in for the play-dumb guitar dataset ).

[Scrubbing Monkeys]

I encourage any and all folk to learn to play an acoustic instrument. AI cannot generate the tactile and instant give and take that playing for youself can. Who cares who it is for or if anyone ever hears it. The joy is spectacular as it is. At that point AI is a toy and a tool. Daw or not.

[BertKoor]

unless we feed it all the recordings from people trying their first guitar (im including myself here btw)

There's enough of that on youtube

[vurt]

unless we feed it all the recordings from people trying their first guitar (im including myself here btw)

There's enough of that on youtube

couple of months back, you know the "shorts" that get listed on your suggested watches, for about two weeks, seemed to be filled with young girls playing guitar, wearing bikinis? is this now a thing out there in the real world, or was is just a youtube thing?

(it's far too cold here for bikinis except for 4 days of the year)

[SeBaer]

(it's far too cold here for bikinis except for 4 days of the year)

So, you ARE from Uberwald... I knew it....

[martiu]

i use AI reverb because using normal reverbs iz hard and they muddies my beatz

[donkey tugger]

Never mind this AI bollocks, Quantum bizzle is where it's at;

https://physicsworld.com/a/can-we-use-q ... ake-music/

Can we use quantum computers to make music?

It just sounds like a load of the usual telephone exchange sinthesiser stuff to me...

[jamcat]

But quantum music could at any time be playing superpositioned Gmaj and Fmaj chords at the same time.

In other words, jazz.
So, no.

[martiu]

this is the best synth for AI beatz -