microphonic concréte instruments
- addled muppet weed
- 111253 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
anyone know of any others like this?
i like this, and have found them in stock in the uk, but rather than pull the trigger and have someone point to something better later....
so hit me!
- KVRAF
- 1890 posts since 14 Jul, 2018
gaz williams reviewed it couple of years ago
maybe another one might be the KOMA fieldkit series
https://koma-elektronik.com/?product=field-kit
maybe another one might be the KOMA fieldkit series
https://koma-elektronik.com/?product=field-kit
- Beware the Quoth
- 35432 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
I think the Leaf Audio one is on the more complex end of the various commercial spring /kalimba-eque boxes and the like out there. Onboard electronics are probably a wee bit rarer than just inbuilt contact mics (or no mic at all).
Without electronics, they're fairly easy to DIY though, so that's where Ive kinda leant. Ive got one wooden one built, got plenty of bits to make more, in wood and metal boxes. Bolts/nuts, washers, eyelets, springs, rubber bands, cheap acoustic guitar strings etc are easy enough to pick up (usually in mixed-size sets) from Amazon or ebay, but you can also find all sorts of instrument parts that are useful like kalimba tines/bridges, harp pegs, etc
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0951B7WMC/
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/403730049555 ... SwQWxisTC1
etc
There's also an electrical part similar to a kalimba bridge thats called an 'earth block'. Can be used to hold steel rods, like bicycle spokes, something I saw Tom mention on the original Music Thing website years and years ago.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007IUN7EG
Ive got a box full of bits for building these sorts of things, and keep anything that might be useful, like a broken steel 'fish turner' spatula, wooden rulers, washers etc. Even got a 'spare' spring tank I intend to wedge inside one of them as a resonator. Plus plenty of piezo elements for contact mics.
At least one Im probably also going to try and fit in a cheap PT2399 'karaoke' delay board...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254999495831 ... 3b5f278497
Course it takes me ages to getting around to doing any of this stuff, but I do have at least one built...
edit : definitely pick up a violin or cello bow and rosin too....
Without electronics, they're fairly easy to DIY though, so that's where Ive kinda leant. Ive got one wooden one built, got plenty of bits to make more, in wood and metal boxes. Bolts/nuts, washers, eyelets, springs, rubber bands, cheap acoustic guitar strings etc are easy enough to pick up (usually in mixed-size sets) from Amazon or ebay, but you can also find all sorts of instrument parts that are useful like kalimba tines/bridges, harp pegs, etc
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0951B7WMC/
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/403730049555 ... SwQWxisTC1
etc
There's also an electrical part similar to a kalimba bridge thats called an 'earth block'. Can be used to hold steel rods, like bicycle spokes, something I saw Tom mention on the original Music Thing website years and years ago.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007IUN7EG
Ive got a box full of bits for building these sorts of things, and keep anything that might be useful, like a broken steel 'fish turner' spatula, wooden rulers, washers etc. Even got a 'spare' spring tank I intend to wedge inside one of them as a resonator. Plus plenty of piezo elements for contact mics.
At least one Im probably also going to try and fit in a cheap PT2399 'karaoke' delay board...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254999495831 ... 3b5f278497
Course it takes me ages to getting around to doing any of this stuff, but I do have at least one built...
edit : definitely pick up a violin or cello bow and rosin too....
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35432 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Also, search the Pootubes for
'Apprehension Engine'
'Nightmare Engine'
'Little John Noise Box'
'Horror Box'
etc
'Apprehension Engine'
'Nightmare Engine'
'Little John Noise Box'
'Horror Box'
etc
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
- Beware the Quoth
- 35432 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Also, also, for commercial things in similar territory (and other weird stuff) check errorinstruments.com if you havent already...
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
- Beware the Quoth
- 35432 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Just looking at the Leaf Audio page, they seem to have a passive cutdown version for bolting your own bits onto, as well as a range of things to bolt on that overlaps with a lot of the stuff Ive mentioned. At least one new to me; I will now be buying one of those wire eggslicers from somewhere...
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
- addled muppet weed
- Topic Starter
- 111253 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
i haven't, but will have a look.whyterabbyt wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 3:08 pm Also, also, for commercial things in similar territory (and other weird stuff) check errorinstruments.com if you havent already...
re diy, im too lazy
although, i could easily do some of it, it's things like those uprights im not too sure of how they would attach? or what would be best? pipe or rod?
as it stands, i use my dining table in the studio, with contacts for scrapes and rolls of dice/pebbles. various other.
if i knew how and had the means, id happily attach the uprights on the table.
and i do still have an old bow but do need some rosin as ive lost mine
thanks
- addled muppet weed
- Topic Starter
- 111253 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
morrisons do a nice egg slicer, i was asked what i was doing while strumming one, up against a metal tray, by security.whyterabbyt wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 3:19 pm Just looking at the Leaf Audio page, they seem to have a passive cutdown version for bolting your own bits onto, as well as a range of things to bolt on that overlaps with a lot of the stuff Ive mentioned. At least one new to me; I will now be buying one of those wire eggslicers from somewhere...
no creativity!
- addled muppet weed
- Topic Starter
- 111253 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
metal combs are nice too, scraped along the teeth on the table edge.
plastic is ok, but be careful of flying comb teeth
plastic is ok, but be careful of flying comb teeth
- Beware the Quoth
- 35432 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
yeah, well im obviously regularly guilty of that, but I do occasionally get round to it...vurt wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 3:28 pmi haven't, but will have a look.
re diy, im too lazyid buy all the bits and never finish it
The metal earth bars would maybe work for that, you could mount them on the side of something with the holes facing upwards.although, i could easily do some of it, it's things like those uprights im not too sure of how they would attach? or what would be best? pipe or rod?
Though the Leaf Audio soundbox seems to have them mounted on what seems to be a solid block of wood, maybe its just drilled through with holes to the correct size of the rods, and they're glued or clamped in.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
- addled muppet weed
- Topic Starter
- 111253 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
hmm wonder if bar plus gclamp would work? doesn't have to be upright i guess!
now to find a piece of rebar from somewhere
now to find a piece of rebar from somewhere
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- KVRian
- 1303 posts since 29 Sep, 2012 from Minnesota
This all comes from the work of bands like Test Department and Savage Aural Hotbed who took the ideal of electrifying handmade instruments from scrap and stuff.
Was a fan of Savage Aural Hotbed in the 1990s (they sound a lot better in open places then they do in smaller bars/venues)
Was a fan of Savage Aural Hotbed in the 1990s (they sound a lot better in open places then they do in smaller bars/venues)
- addled muppet weed
- Topic Starter
- 111253 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
i think even longer tbh, a lot of early electronic composers used various techniques like bowing metal for early horror scores.
not to mention the singing saw
i know test dept. but didn't know the others, cheers
not to mention the singing saw
i know test dept. but didn't know the others, cheers
- addled muppet weed
- Topic Starter
- 111253 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
anyway, ive ordered an 11mil diameter steel rod 
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- KVRian
- 1303 posts since 29 Sep, 2012 from Minnesota
Steel rods are great, so are thin steel plates!
last year I banged on a steel sculpture in a park with my field recorder