Ooh, I like This Modular Rack...

[elxsound]

If you’re in the UK the black Doepfer Wasp can be had for £67.

https://www.juno.co.uk/products/doepfer ... gIwt_D_BwE

Even if you’re not, and are in the US, this still looks like a great deal. I’m seeing international shipping at just $11.

then why does getting stuff from you to us cost so much??

It’s due to production value at the packaging stage.

[ghettosynth]

With patience and the right tools, you can get it out. Small flat screwdrivers can be used to depress the contacts. While doing this you need to shake and try to get things to come loose.

No amount of screwdriver jiggling has worked so far. Opened up the Polaris pedal but the jack socket is a sealed unit fixed to the circuit board. No way in. Stressful putting it back together, aligning the pin contacts was fiddly in the extreme.

Some on Google have had success with a drill bit partly drilled into the jack end. Not sure I am brave enough

The screwdriver technique is a learned experience in patience. The drill bit can also work. You should have taken pictures while you had it open so that we could have a look. It's unfortunate, because they don't seem to be worth enough to take it to a tech.

[ghettosynth]

If you’re in the UK the black Doepfer Wasp can be had for £67.

https://www.juno.co.uk/products/doepfer ... gIwt_D_BwE

I've read up on this, because of low prices, and it seems that there's risk of getting a bill from customs that will wipe out any gains, and potentially send you into loss territory. This is just what I've read, I'd love to hear about the experiences of others.

[vurt]

With patience and the right tools, you can get it out. Small flat screwdrivers can be used to depress the contacts. While doing this you need to shake and try to get things to come loose.

No amount of screwdriver jiggling has worked so far. Opened up the Polaris pedal but the jack socket is a sealed unit fixed to the circuit board. No way in. Stressful putting it back together, aligning the pin contacts was fiddly in the extreme.

Some on Google have had success with a drill bit partly drilled into the jack end. Not sure I am brave enough

The screwdriver technique is a learned experience in patience. The drill bit can also work. You should have taken pictures while you had it open so that we could have a look. It's unfortunate, because they don't seem to be worth enough to take it to a tech.

well, now i cant pull a plug from my interface
as in, at all, its not broken, still works all fine, but its locked in!!! wtf?

[ghettosynth]

Wavefolders: I did look at the Taiga as well, which has a wavefolder on each oscillator. I m a bit surprised that not any of the setups shown here has a wavefolder. I did some tests in software modular, and my inital excitement of wavefolders is somewhat diminished. BUT, i made sure, the Disting has a wavefolder, so that is covered . Wavefolder, wasp, borg : there will be nastyness

I nearly purchased an expensive west coast synth on clearance recently, but passed. I think that if one is largely a fan of the east-coast approach then being cautious with wavefolders makes sense. I'll just say it, I don't really like what I was hearing coming out of Taiga. I kind of like the west-pest, which I have to eat a little crow to say, because I've not, so far, been really impressed with Cre8 audio. Really, their stuff is cheap; I wouldn't want a lot of it in my studio. They are, in terms of quality, the Pyle of Eurorack. That said, the west-pest seems like a small west-coast acid machine. I'm still on the fence, we'll see.

I will say that, if you're on the fence on something, then having something like the Disting is a good way to explore it in the context of modular. Also, for those wanting to try DIY, I thought that this was pretty fun. PROCEED WITH CAUTION!

[justin3am]

I feel like a grumpy old dude for saying it but I'm starting to think eurorack has outgrown me. Increasingly, the features and layouts that are popular just don't appeal to me at all.

As much as I still enjoy keeping up with all of the new developments the only things I've gotten over the last few years have been built by my friends in small runs. I remember when I started with my first eurorack modular in 2008, many of the people I spoke with who had modulars, got their start in the '90s or even earlier than that. Those guys all felt like the evolving modular culture was leaving them behind. I'm kinda welcoming this feeling. I haven't really felt like I needed anything new in a long time, I just enoyed trying out new stuff. Over the last year that desire to try new stuff has faded and I'm just having fun with the stuff I have.

Perhaps I would feel different if I hadn't sold a bunch or eurorack to get into 4u. I might now be building a dedicated R*S Serge system and a TipTop Buchla system but then I'd probably continue to expand, without getting as much enjoyment as I've had recently, just learning new techniques.

But at the same time, part of what I enjoyed about trying new stuff, was being able to have conversations about that stuff with folks who were also exploring similar territory. I can't relate as much as I used to so I don't find myself participating in conversations as often, which moves me further out of the loop.

Kinda some pointless pontificating and perhaps not the appropriate place to share such thoughts but people who I like to read from are posting here, so why not?

[ghettosynth]

Kinda some pointless pontificating and perhaps not the appropriate place to share such thoughts but people who I like to read from are posting here, so why not?

It's perfectly fine man. I had a long response, but it can wait, don't want to hog the thread. Others will pontificate with you, I'm sure.

[Stefken]

But at the same time, part of what I enjoyed about trying new stuff, was being able to have conversations about that stuff with folks who were also exploring similar territory. I can't relate as much as I used to so I don't find myself participating in conversations as often, which moves me further out of the loop.

As a newbie in modular, i am in a different boat.
But i was active in photography before, and when digital sensors were still fully in development, i enjoyed discussing this. Nowadays, sensors are so optimised that the discussion is pretty pointless. So, that s gone. I need to move on to diffent territories.

That being said. I m pretty sure that things like oscillators, enveloppes, ADSRs, filters ... will always be a part of modular, as are neat tricks to get around limitations or interesting ideas like lfo s and enveloppes interfering into each other to create complex signals. I would think that persons that were involved when e.g. macro oscillators weren t a thing yet, will have a bunch of tricks up their sleeve.

I for one would certainly be interested in any advice an experienced user can give. E.g. in the domain of generative modular. I have no heard that many things about generative sequences during my time here and it certainly is something that interest me.

[ghettosynth]

Generative stuff is really easy to explore in virtual modular. Here's some ideas for a small system. I posted the link early about percussion modulation on Brains/Plaits. You can apply a lot of these ideas to that.

https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2021 ... ck-system/

[justin3am]

Thanks for your thoughts. For sure there are still companies who make simple building block modules. I've been reading more about Expert Sleepers' newish analog modules, since they announced a new envelope module. I'm tempted to say that they remind me of Doepfer modules in their potential utility. Joranalogue strikes me as another company that strikes a good balance between tons of functions without being too dense.

I for one would certainly be interested in any advice an experienced user can give. E.g. in the domain of generative modular. I have no heard that many things about generative sequences during my time here and it certainly is something that interest me.

I was at a synth meetup last night and I was showing a fellow synth nerd, how to use the voltage processors on my ARP 2600, to offset gate signals, so that they are below the threshold at which the envelopes get triggered. Using this technique, you can mimic the effect of a comparator, so that a modulation signal can be used to prevent a gate from triggering the envelopes, when the modulation signal goes into negative territory. When using the Sample and Hold as the modulation source, the level of the modulation determines the probability that the envelope will be triggered. This is really easy on the 2600 because the voltage processors have inverting outputs and envelopes need pretty hot signals to trigger.

In more open ended modulars, it's easy to do this by running your triggers/gates through an attenuverting mixer, with a modulation source going into another channel.

I've been meaning to put together some videos about technique for longer than I care to admit. I have some stuff on my youtube channel, like this one I did with u-he's CVilization:


Ironically, a very feature packed module but it's just so useful for creating generative music and sounds.

[Stefken]

I came across this. Those minimods (osc and vcf) sound nice. Fyi.
That cv analyser is a nice idea and not priced too crazyly.

[Stefken]

the Disting which is so many things and a soundsource is one of them. Classic oscillators, but MI Rings and Braids have also been integrated, there is also a polysynth and multi sampler. Hell, maybe they are working right now on integrating Plaits as well. At which point, i don t need Behringer Brains anymore.

Looks like they heard me.
In the mail, a video showcasing the macro oscillator 2 aka M. I. Plaits. 4 instances.

[Stefken]

Nice filter prototype
Looks like U-he has me by the balls again. I like that their implementations are always deep.

[Stefken]

Looks like one mode of CVilization is based on their shape sequencer (or vice versa).

2023-03-08 12_19_06-Hive_1-MIDI.png

[ghettosynth]

the Disting which is so many things and a soundsource is one of them. Classic oscillators, but MI Rings and Braids have also been integrated, there is also a polysynth and multi sampler. Hell, maybe they are working right now on integrating Plaits as well. At which point, i don t need Behringer Brains anymore.

Looks like they heard me.
In the mail, a video showcasing the macro oscillator 2 aka M. I. Plaits. 4 instances.

I feel like you are turning to the dark side my friend. As I said, it's THE swiss army knife module to have. I wouldn't want it to be all of those things all of the time. But I feel very strongly that it allows you maximum exploration of different ideas in a minimum of HP. God I'm going to sound cringe here, but, it's really a bargain when you consider how little you have to spend to explore that much variety in a small rack.