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SHall1000 wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:45 pm Envelopes with CV modulation of ADS and R parameters. Is that a good thing? Does it open up lots of more options for patching than without?
Variable decay envelopes are almost essential for hi-hats etc.

But I don't have any dedicated ADSR module because 95% of the time I just want AD or AR, and those can be provided by a VC slew limiter/function-generator that also does many other things. This is why Maths is so popular. (I have Rampage as one of my very first and still most-used modules.)

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So what do you have so far? Have you set it up in modular grid?
No firm decisions made yet as finances make this a long term project. The vision is to limit to 84HP to compliment the B 2600 both in a 19 inch desktop rack and to keep the cost down as low as possible :hihi:

Want to get more time with the 2600 to get a clearer view of what’s “missing”/what I am trying to achieve.

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imrae wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:00 pm
dashel wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:04 pm Disting ex looks great but no personal experience, seems to be a big upgrade over it's smaller brother with the sample player from micro sd and ability to operate as one module or 2 distings.
I use my mk4 as a sample player all the time, what does the EX add there?
Just a higher sample rate and lower latency, it's also polyphonic sample player which I'm not sure about with the original disting.

My post wasn't that clear, the ability to be two separate distings with more RAM or one super disting is the major improvement in my eyes.

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SHall1000 wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:07 pm
So what do you have so far? Have you set it up in modular grid?
No firm decisions made yet as finances make this a long term project. The vision is to limit to 84HP to compliment the B 2600 both in a 19 inch desktop rack and to keep the cost down as low as possible :hihi:

Want to get more time with the 2600 to get a clearer view of what’s “missing”/what I am trying to achieve.
Have you picked a case out?

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dashel wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:20 pm
imrae wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:00 pm
dashel wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:04 pm Disting ex looks great but no personal experience, seems to be a big upgrade over it's smaller brother with the sample player from micro sd and ability to operate as one module or 2 distings.
I use my mk4 as a sample player all the time, what does the EX add there?
Just a higher sample rate and lower latency, it's also polyphonic sample player which I'm not sure about with the original disting.

My post wasn't that clear, the ability to be two separate distings with more RAM or one super disting is the major improvement in my eyes.
Yes, so it's the same prices as two Mk4s, but, it can also be used with all of the more advanced single algorithms. I know that it sounds silly to want to play a soft piano in Eurorack, and yet, mine gets a lot of use for that because, for me, I like working without the computer sometimes.

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dashel wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:21 pm
SHall1000 wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:07 pm
So what do you have so far? Have you set it up in modular grid?
No firm decisions made yet as finances make this a long term project. The vision is to limit to 84HP to compliment the B 2600 both in a 19 inch desktop rack and to keep the cost down as low as possible :hihi:

Want to get more time with the 2600 to get a clearer view of what’s “missing”/what I am trying to achieve.
Have you picked a case out?
A Tip Top happy kit to put above or below the B.2600 in a rack like this:

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SHall1000 wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:31 pm
dashel wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:21 pm
SHall1000 wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:07 pm
So what do you have so far? Have you set it up in modular grid?
No firm decisions made yet as finances make this a long term project. The vision is to limit to 84HP to compliment the B 2600 both in a 19 inch desktop rack and to keep the cost down as low as possible :hihi:

Want to get more time with the 2600 to get a clearer view of what’s “missing”/what I am trying to achieve.
Have you picked a case out?
A Tip Top happy kit to put above or below the B.2600 in a rack like this:

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Cool, seems like the most cost effective option.

I had a NiftyCase with a set of rack ears that came with it, still have the rack ears actually but moved to a tiptop mantis. I was thinking about a NiftyCase if you've only got 84 hp because it saves 4hp on the power module and has it's own line out.

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Interesting. The Nifty Case bundle could be another option. Does it definitely come with rack ears, can’t see anything in the specs?

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No, no rack ears come with the case. I have a spare set that came from the guy who sold me the case that I wouldn't mind shipping to you if you go that route as I have no need for them. Also they don't seem too difficult to fashion yourself. As far as the bundle, it seems like a good deal but those two modules at 12hp a piece will probably not stay in your rack if you've only got 84 hp although they are okay modules and play well together.

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imrae wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:05 pm
SHall1000 wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:45 pm Envelopes with CV modulation of ADS and R parameters. Is that a good thing? Does it open up lots of more options for patching than without?
Variable decay envelopes are almost essential for hi-hats etc.

But I don't have any dedicated ADSR module because 95% of the time I just want AD or AR, and those can be provided by a VC slew limiter/function-generator that also does many other things. This is why Maths is so popular. (I have Rampage as one of my very first and still most-used modules.)
Thinking module selection should be on the basis of maximum CV inputs and modulatable parameters. That’s the whole points of Modular isn’t it?
Of course inflates the cost somewhat :cry:

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dashel wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:11 pm No, no rack ears come with the case. I have a spare set that came from the guy who sold me the case that I wouldn't mind shipping to you if you go that route as I have no need for them. Also they don't seem too difficult to fashion yourself. As far as the bundle, it seems like a good deal but those two modules at 12hp a piece will probably not stay in your rack if you've only got 84 hp although they are okay modules and play well together.
Thanks! May take you up on that. Needs more thinking through. Yes, not sure about the bundled modules.

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SHall1000 wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:55 pm Interesting. The Nifty Case bundle could be another option. Does it definitely come with rack ears, can’t see anything in the specs?
Mine did not. I've had it since about the end of 2019. So, maybe they do now, or maybe they only did way back when. I don't know.

I still use mine, but, TBH, I'm not a fan. In a rack it will take 4u, so, if you have 4u then you can add a row of 1u tiles. The power supply in the nifty case (sorry about the thinko) isn't all that. Mine likes to squeal when I draw a little too much 12v. The bolted nut strips are not precise and it's not very deep. On the plus side it has a midi to CV converter, but you have that already in the 2600. It also provides midi clock. Also on the down side, the output isn't stereo. I would say that you're better off mixing into your 2600's output.

This is $100

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This is $85 without power brick.

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Then this is the full three amp power brick that will give you plenty of power. It's a little more expensive than the happy ending kit, but, you won't have to replace the power brick later.

https://www.perfectcircuit.com/tiptop-a ... a-psu.html

You can, of course, also just buy the tip top rails * 2 for $80, the 3u rack ears for $20 and the synthrotek 1u rack ears for about the same. You will get tip top rails that way, with nut strip, but it will cost a few dollars more.

A lot of cool things can go in 1U, freeing up some space in your 3u row and giving you a little extra growing room without breaking the bank. The nifty case is $200, so it's not saving you anything. If you buy the bundle you get two modules that aren't useless, but not modules that I would buy if I were trying to curate a careful first rack.

https://www.perfectcircuit.com/catalogs ... sult/?q=1u

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For example, this will allow you to mount up to a 6HP 3u module sideways in a 1u space. You could mount your power supply in the 1U section with an adapter.

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ghettosynth wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:28 pm
dashel wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:20 pm
imrae wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:00 pm
dashel wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:04 pm Disting ex looks great but no personal experience, seems to be a big upgrade over it's smaller brother with the sample player from micro sd and ability to operate as one module or 2 distings.
I use my mk4 as a sample player all the time, what does the EX add there?
Just a higher sample rate and lower latency, it's also polyphonic sample player which I'm not sure about with the original disting.

My post wasn't that clear, the ability to be two separate distings with more RAM or one super disting is the major improvement in my eyes.
Yes, so it's the same prices as two Mk4s, but, it can also be used with all of the more advanced single algorithms. I know that it sounds silly to want to play a soft piano in Eurorack, and yet, mine gets a lot of use for that because, for me, I like working without the computer sometimes.
It s 2 Mk4s for starters, so if you have used one for an end FX (e.g. reverb) you can still use the other for another function.
As one unit as a whole, they seem to be adding extra algorithms at a steady pace : the multisampler stuff but i for one am most excited about the Mutable instruments ports. Braids, Rings, Plaits have all been added. Instead of Clouds there is a granulator. I m hoping for more M.I. ports to come. :) :pray:

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Stefken wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:45 pm
ghettosynth wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:28 pm
dashel wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:20 pm
imrae wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:00 pm
dashel wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:04 pm Disting ex looks great but no personal experience, seems to be a big upgrade over it's smaller brother with the sample player from micro sd and ability to operate as one module or 2 distings.
I use my mk4 as a sample player all the time, what does the EX add there?
Just a higher sample rate and lower latency, it's also polyphonic sample player which I'm not sure about with the original disting.

My post wasn't that clear, the ability to be two separate distings with more RAM or one super disting is the major improvement in my eyes.
Yes, so it's the same prices as two Mk4s, but, it can also be used with all of the more advanced single algorithms. I know that it sounds silly to want to play a soft piano in Eurorack, and yet, mine gets a lot of use for that because, for me, I like working without the computer sometimes.
It s 2 Mk4s for starters, so if you have used one for an end FX (e.g. reverb) you can still use the other for another function.
As one unit as a whole, they seem to be adding extra algorithms at a steady pace : the multisampler stuff but i for one am most excited about the Mutable instruments ports. Braids, Rings, Plaits have all been added. Instead of Clouds there is a granualator. I m hoping for more M.I. ports to come. :) :pray:
Oh yes, plaits *4 is polyphonic via midi.

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