Has anyone invented an AI "uber-brain" plugin yet?

[Michael L]

Yikes! I'm in danger of being misunderstood here... I probably shouldn't have put AI in the title!
The "amazing" I'm referring to is more to do with cataloguing and navigating my increasingly huge palette of samples, midi files, VST instruments and effects... getting "intelligent" suggestions that speed up and actually enhance my own creative process

Haha!
Well, you will have a lot of fun being misunderstood by an anonymous programmer's machine learning algorithm that will slow down and confuse your creative process by showing useless associations among your disorganised palette and uber-cluttering your brain.

You need this:
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[mgw38]

chatgp is not ai, it's machine learning.

It's not wrong though because ML only refers to some of the algorithms used in chatGPT. Technically, you would refer to chatGPT as "generative AI".

[vurt]

chatgp is not ai, it's machine learning.

It's not wrong though because ML only refers to some of the algorithms used in chatGPT. Technically, you would refer to chatGPT as "generative AI".

i have higher standards than the people who said that!

[vurt]

if it can't love, not ai. there has to be a line!

[mgw38]

if it can't love, not ai. there has to be a line!

Be careful what you wish for.

Google "Replika" and "romantic relationship" and you will find a rabbit hole that is very deep.

[vurt]

if it can't love, not ai. there has to be a line!

Be careful what you wish for.

Google "Replika" and "romantic relationship" and you will find a rabbit hole that is very deep.

im already deep in the rabbit hole of sex robots
watched a good few documentaries about where we are up to and so far, not so much sexy as scary
i just don't fancy putting my cock in the hands of an entity that can crush a coconut.

[jancivil]

but actual good art has to come from a human hand.

The problem with this statement is that it is more of a definition of art than anything else. What if, in the future, nobody cares about this type of art anymore? I teach in an art and design college and I currently see a lot of people trying to protect their identity as an artist that way. I think this is missing the point about how AI will drive our understanding of the creative process (as technological innovation has always done at any point of time in the past).

When you say about people trying to protect their identity... i'm not sure I know what you mean... do you mean like people saying, hey - I'm a real human being doing art, not a computer -- that's got to mean something!?

Yes, that is pretty much it. As an artist the question is how much you are willing to incorporate technology into the creation of art. Just ignoring or opposing it is a valid approach, it's just not helpful. This is not a new discussion either. For example, consider the art fabrication approach by somebody like Jeff Koons. If the artist is not involved in the actual construction of the art piece, is this still his art? He just told his staff how to build the thing. Just like you will tell the AI on how to build it. Some might think of this development as dystopian, but in reality it is just an evolution of our cultural value system.

While Koons is IMO a good analogy and explains your view well (and I tend to agree*) I am driven to note the shift of goalposts from “what if” people no longer cared “about this type of art anymore” (per “to come from a human hand.”) to this.
CF: Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction - W. Benjamin

(*: although I think that change of cultural values is overstated and would stay well short of the characterization ‘an evolution’, as there is enough evidence for me of “values” growing more coarse, in music anyway.)

[mgw38]

Valid point re evolution. All I’m saying is that every generation has their right to their own sh*itty music. Why not sh*tty AI music?

[vurt]

Valid point re evolution. All I’m saying is that every generation has their right to their own sh*itty music. Why not sh*tty AI music?

can't be any worse than stock, aitken and waterman.

[resynthesis]

I was tempted to do a gratuitous Rickroll there

Did you ever watch The Hitman & Her? Sorry OT

[jonljacobi]

I'm sure in some near future they'll come up with something that creates good music. What then? Music is a form of communication between humans. It's supposed to reveal something of your self and your soul. We're nearing the time where we can eliminate virtually anyone's job. WTF will be the point to existing? Without purpose, we're nothing.

I've sometime heard said (ironically), the only way to save humanity is to eliminate humanity. Careful what you wish for.

[vurt]

I've sometime heard said (ironically), the only way to save humanity is to eliminate humanity. Careful what you wish for.

if youd ever seen the hitman and her, you might think it was the best thing to eliminate humanity.

[vurt]

I was tempted to do a gratuitous Rickroll there

Did you ever watch The Hitman & Her? Sorry OT

yup.
i even went to mr smiths. once.
when i was at sixth form, a girl there, was dating the dancer with the wig. she got us free tickets, id never seen it but knew michaela was on it, thought i might get to meet her (i was a schoolboy still!!!)
got there, thought to myself "well, if this is clubbing, i want no part of this in the future!"
luckily the week after, someone dosed me on e, and took me to club 4, showed me what clubbing is really like!!!

then they moved raw power and the other metal show to the middle of the night too, so id stay up to watch them, or get in from being out, and catch the end of hmah before settling to watch the same 6 videos on raw power they had showed the week before

we never had sky or anything, we was poor

[cron]

That's my hot take. Ultimately, people will use them for inspiration, direction, options, and probably teaching.. but actual good art has to come from a human hand.

Absolutely! AI really only boils down to "data in, data out"... the one thing it can't do is imagine.
(I suppose somebody will prove me wrong now... )

I'm possibly focusing on the choice of word a little more than you intended (I'm guessing that "imagine" was the first word that came to mind) but the thing about artistic "imagination" is that it's a human quality. A computer program can't imagine something any more than a deckchair can.

The thing is, when we say a piece of art is "imaginative," I don't think we're speculating about its creator's state of mind: we're talking about something we can see or hear in the work - something that's quantifiable in the end product. If 'imagination' truly is something that can be seen on the page, then AI can statistically model it. Ditto "soul" or any other human-exclusive qualities we ascribe to pure imagery/audio.

Does AI have soul? Can it be imaginative? No, but if these are things we can readily perceive in artistic output, it isn't going to matter.

[vurt]

Does AI have soul?

there was a nytimes op ed, discussing rights for ai chat bots
this means one day, an ai is going to help me making music, then leave me for artistic differences and there will be nothing i can do!
plus there will be employment rights so ill have to not only buy the program, but then pay the ai a weekly wage