Ooh, I like This Modular Rack...

[elxsound]

what do you mean by drums?
actual drum kits or machine? multi channel or loops?

there are different options depending on these requirements. loops is obviously least module and channels, so cheapest.
something like morphagene, while expensive for an individual module, allows fór slicing up loops, which you could then use midi to trigger. or you could load up lots of individual samples, then midi (could be a pain if you have different velocity samples to trigger, but doable)

Some OK drums.
Say i go pretty nasty/acid with my wasp filter and i want a decent drum on there.
Say i create something ambient and i want a slow percussive sequence to complement it.

Loops is not my preference per se. I d like a bit of control.

If you suggest to NOT integrate drums into the modular and have a separate beatbox do the work, that is just fine too. (If i see that some modulars have like 4 separate drum modules and a quite limited sequencer, while a dedicated beatbox can do a lot more, then hmm ....)

Everybody’s different which is why this becomes so personal.

I actually hated triggering drums with eurorack outside of using Morphagene, but still prefer using just about anything else over drums in eurorack. Mainly I’m using Digitakt and Syntakt from external gear.

One bit I thought was great and I still have (but intend to sell) is the QD Drum Voice. It offers four voices (as the name suggests) and has lots of flexibility for interacting with the voices.

I was initially using this with 2 DNIPro Dots, but again it just doesn’t make sense for me to use it this way, so no drum voices in my system (outside of occasional use in Morphagene) and outside of creating drum sounds with another voice module. 0-Coast makes tasty kicks.

[justin3am]

One of the guys who organizes the LA Synth Club uses a QD with a TipTop Circadian Rhythm. What he was doing with it sounded great. Looked like a ton of fun in a small space.

My primary complaints about drum modules is that so many aren't that patchable. They might have a single CV input or none at all. Or if they have like separate noise and oscillator genrators that get mixed together, you don't get individual outputs for those different sources. One of my favorite drum modules is the Vermona Twincussion. It sounds really nice and is really flexible. I also have a Jomox ModBase 09 (which I mostly control via MIDI from my Octatrack). It's not as flexible as something like the Twincussion but it sounds incredible. I also like my Mutant BD9 from Hex Inverter, Basimilus Iteritas Alter and Erica Sample Drum. Each have a nice amount of modulation inputs.

When it comes to sequencing I tend to be a bit all over the place. Often I route a few of the Octatrack's MIDI channels to the Mutant Brain but I can also do drum sequencing from the Tubbutec 6equencer or Vector sequencer but lately I've been having a lot more fun creating weird streams of pulses with like shift-registers and chains of cycling envelopes. Lots of ways to play with rhythm in modularland that would be difficult with other tools but whether the results are useful to you... well

Still, I've mostly been using my Pulsar-23, Ornament-8 and Double Knot for drums these days.

[ghettosynth]

My primary complaints about drum modules is that so many aren't that patchable. They might have a single CV input or none at all. Or if they have like separate noise and oscillator genrators that get mixed together, you don't get individual outputs for those different sources.

Yep. I just went looking for a x0x cymbal noise source and didn't really find anything. No matter, that's an easy DIY if there ever was one.

[vurt]

If you suggest to NOT integrate drums into the modular and have a separate beatbox do the work, that is just fine too. (If i see that some modulars have like 4 separate drum modules and a quite limited sequencer, while a dedicated beatbox can do a lot more, then hmm ....)

this is the thing, drums take up rack space if you move from a sampler option, even the samplers can take up lots of space depending how many channels you desire...

for a small rack, id probably (if i used drums much ) go with a drum machine of some sort, and maybe use either plaits or an oscillator/env to augment it.
then use the midi clock through one of the midi options i have.

larger rack
both drum machine and module options

[dashel]

QD with Qex is a pretty good option if you're intent on making drums in the rack although probably takes up too much space for a small case especially if you have the sequencer in the case as well.

[elxsound]

Anyone have insight on the Arturia Rackbrutes?

I missed out on a great offer, for 2 of the 6u cases for $440 after shipping & tax.

I hesitated and someone bought it first, but the hesitation was because I was always looking for a case that could close completely.

Having two, doesn’t seem bad, but I just don’t know if there any drawbacks to them.

[ghettosynth]

Anyone have insight on the Arturia Rackbrutes?

I missed out on a great offer, for 2 of the 6u cases for $440 after shipping & tax.

I hesitated and someone bought it first, but the hesitation was because I was always looking for a case that could close completely.

Having two, doesn’t seem bad, but I just don’t know if there any drawbacks to them.

I've read that while they are deeper than some skiffs that they may not be deep enough for some modules. I almost went that way at first...eons ago.

[Stefken]

So, i am a filterhead. Guilty as charged.

Here is an excellent demo of the Roland VCF 521 in the extremely capable hands of one of my favorite sound designers. He does pretty awesome sound design.

Behringer clone : https://www.modulargrid.net/e/behringer ... 1-dual-vcf

[Scotty]

I've got a rack brute 6u paired with an arturia MiniBrute 2S. I am running mostly Roland System 100 and Behringer Moog clone modules. Its been fine. I'm looking for another to expand. There isn't a ton of left over power but if you do the math you'll be fine. I also missed out on a good deal for a pair of them during a cash crunch but they are still making them so there will me more opportunities.

Anyone have insight on the Arturia Rackbrutes?

I missed out on a great offer, for 2 of the 6u cases for $440 after shipping & tax.

I hesitated and someone bought it first, but the hesitation was because I was always looking for a case that could close completely.

Having two, doesn’t seem bad, but I just don’t know if there any drawbacks to them.

[Stefken]

So here is a multi effect unit Sami featured on his channel.
Reverb, delay, frequency shifter, distortion, wave folder , ...

The XL version gives you cv control over all parameters.
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/happy-nerding-fx-aid-xl

Demo with musical context.

[ghettosynth]

So here is a multi effect unit Sami featured on his channel.
Reverb, delay, frequency shifter, distortion, wave folder , ...

The XL version gives you cv control over all parameters.
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/happy-nerding-fx-aid-xl

Demo with musical context.

That seems like a really nice balance between price, size, quality, configurability, and controllability. I would definitely take that over, e.g., the Pico-DSP.

[whyterabbyt]

The XL version gives you cv control over all parameters.
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/happy-nerding-fx-aid-xl

There's also a bigger version still, the Pro, with considerably more FX slots, internal LFOs and an OLED screen.

[ghettosynth]

So, i am a filterhead. Guilty as charged.

Here is an excellent demo of the Roland VCF 521 in the extremely capable hands of one of my favorite sound designers. He does pretty awesome sound design.

Behringer clone : https://www.modulargrid.net/e/behringer ... 1-dual-vcf

I feel you, I'm that way about filters as well. I also am a died in the wool Roland filter fan up to the IR3109, which is where I get off the Roland filter appreciation bus. The Roland version seems very well made. I remember seeing those at a synth-gathering thing a few years back. I think that they're much better made than the Behringer, so, if you want something that feels fantastic and don't mind paying for it, then the Roland is the way to go. The System 100m (not 100) is an OTA based filter built from four stages of BA662. People are pretty particular about this chip and there were arguments for days about which x0xb0xen sounded more or less like the 303 based on whether they used an actual BA662 or a close substitute.

The IR319, which is a filter on a chip built from four BA662 stages has been remade and there are several filters based on it including the Erica synths Black 3109 filter.

IMO, the switched high pass on the Behringer clone doesn't add that much. I wish that it had CV-Q. The Roland 521 doesn't have this either. I think that a better use of that space is the Behringer 110 which gives you VCO/VCF/VCA without the highpass. Granted, you do not have a direct output of the VCF.

[SHall1000]

OK. Starting to plan the B2600 Enhancer:



Welcome critique. What’s missing.

[Stefken]

OK. Starting to plan the B2600 Enhancer:



Welcome critique. What’s missing.

I will just note that Plaits has also been ported to the Disting ex. As are blaids and rings. You might swap out the brains + disting mk4 for a disting ex.

You will have less direct control though and brains also added a few things like a supersaw, td 3, ....

Fyi