Arturia V Collection 10. Predictions.

[Uncle E]

Spark was kind of crummily implemented imo. They should have another go at it in VST form.

Also, implement it with MiniLab, KeyLab, and KeyStep rather than require its own hardware.

With that said, I absolutely loved the SparkLE hardware. It worked flawlessly and was super fast/intuitive to use.

[electro]

Yes! Leave Mini V and Modular V alone, already been done ad nauseum. Matrix 12V is exclusive to Arturia and that's the biggest one to get right. .sysex import/export

I'm wondering what they plan to do with Mini V, as there are several really good Minimoog emulations now. Do they update it anyway, just to bring up the overall quality of the collection? I guess they have to, but it's gotta be hard to get excited about doing that when the best you can do (probably) is just match The Legend or Model 72. I think they'd rather put time into the ones that nobody else has done (well).

[felis]

Yes! Leave Mini V and Modular V alone, already been done ad nauseum. Matrix 12V is exclusive to Arturia and that's the biggest one to get right. .sysex import/export....

Matrix 12V is what I use most from the collection. It's great as it is, but I guess there's always room for improvement.

[jamcat]

Arturia Mini is a 1:1 recreation. You can visually match it to a real Minimoog knob for knob and you'll get the same sound out of it, which isn't the case for most emulations. But Mini could still probably benefit from a tech refresh using Arturia's latest modeling techniques.

[martiu]

Arturia Mini is a 1:1 recreation. You can visually match it to a real Minimoog knob for knob and you'll get the same sound out of it

no

[zzz00m]

Arturia Mini is a 1:1 recreation. You can visually match it to a real Minimoog knob for knob and you'll get the same sound out of it, which isn't the case for most emulations. But Mini could still probably benefit from a tech refresh using Arturia's latest modeling techniques.

No.

I have the Arturia Mini V3, and a while back I ran a comparison of Minimoog emulations for myself using Synapse Audio The Legend, Softube Model 72, GForce Minimonsta, Reaktor Monark, and Cherry Audio Miniverse. And more recently, with the Minimonsta2. I haven't tried the UAD Moog yet, but I'm sure it is excellent (and $$$).

In my opinion, the Arturia Mini gives you a great GUI experience, with a good approximation of the Mini sound. But In my biased, unscientific tests with my ears, it sadly came in last place, especially with the filter.

IMO the Model 72 was best of this bunch for a pure Minimoog emulation.

But for the money, you can't go wrong with the Miniverse. It also adds a multitimbral option, which the Model 72 does not. So that's a big plus without changing the mono character of the Mini. You have choices! It lacks onboard FX, in keeping with the original Mini design. Add some external tape saturation to fatten it up since this is a software emulation without any internal effects, and it is very close!

[Uncle E]

There was a time in the 00’s when Mini V was on lots of big records. If Arturia revamps it, they should include a classic mode so people can still get that sound. It’s its own thing.

[jamcat]

I have the Arturia Mini V3, and a while back I ran a comparison of Minimoog emulations for myself using Synapse Audio The Legend, Softube Model 72, GForce Minimonsta, Reaktor Monark, and Cherry Audio Miniverse. And more recently, with the Minimonsta2.

But what you didn't do is compare them to an actual Minimoog.

Go ahead and find any in-depth Minimoog video on YouTube. Then, at any given time, pause it and dial in the Arturia Mini the same, knob for knob, however the real Minimoog is set. You will get the same sound, and it will be an accurate, unhyped reproduction when you A/B it. I haven't tried all of the ones you've listed, so I don't know if any of them will do the same. Some I've tried were producing sounds that weren't even in the ballpark of those settings on the Minimoog. And others didn't even have the same controls so trying to matching a real Minimoog was futile.

Here's a video you can use as a guide:

[zzz00m]

There was a time in the 00’s when Mini V was on lots of big records. If Arturia revamps it, they should include a classic mode so people can still get that sound. It’s its own thing.

I think they mostly need to revisit the Mini filter. They did a nice job with their new MS-20 filter, so I'm sure they are quite capable! It's got some balls!

[zzz00m]

I have the Arturia Mini V3, and a while back I ran a comparison of Minimoog emulations for myself using Synapse Audio The Legend, Softube Model 72, GForce Minimonsta, Reaktor Monark, and Cherry Audio Miniverse. And more recently, with the Minimonsta2.

But what you didn't do is compare them to an actual Minimoog.

LOL!!! But you ain't never even going to get two hardware Minimoogs to sound the same! Hardware vs. software comparisons are subjective.

And I said that I was only comparing emulations, by ear (no oscilloscopes)...

[jamcat]

That's a copout.
At least when it comes to the Arturia Mini and the hardware Minimoog in the video I linked, they sound the same. So that's one real-world data point.

Perhaps the Arturia Mini sounds slightly flatter or more veiled. That's typical of software models. And that's why I say it could probably benefit from a refresh with the latest algorithms. But fundamentally, it's doing the same thing at the same settings, and you could swap it with the hardware in a live setting and no one would notice.

[waltercruz]

There was a time in the 00’s when Mini V was on lots of big records. If Arturia revamps it, they should include a classic mode so people can still get that sound. It’s its own thing.

If they do it, probably will be a 'new' plugin, like the Jupiter or the Prophet.

[Arashi]

Yes! Leave Mini V and Modular V alone, already been done ad nauseum. Matrix 12V is exclusive to Arturia and that's the biggest one to get right. .sysex import/export

I'm wondering what they plan to do with Mini V, as there are several really good Minimoog emulations now. Do they update it anyway, just to bring up the overall quality of the collection? I guess they have to, but it's gotta be hard to get excited about doing that when the best you can do (probably) is just match The Legend or Model 72. I think they'd rather put time into the ones that nobody else has done (well).

I’m hoping Matrix-12 is near the top of the list for a rewrite. Great synth.

ARP 2600 V could use an overhaul too. Korg’s ARP Odyssey plugin is amazing, but no one has done a great emulation of the 2600 yet.

[Arashi]

Arturia Mini is a 1:1 recreation. You can visually match it to a real Minimoog knob for knob and you'll get the same sound out of it, which isn't the case for most emulations. But Mini could still probably benefit from a tech refresh using Arturia's latest modeling techniques.

No it isn’t. It’s not even close. The Synapse and Softube Minimoog emulations are world class. NI Monark is pretty good. Arturia’s Minimoog is really bad. Sounds nothing like the hardware. They need to delete it and start over from scratch.

[VitaminD]

Spark was kind of crummily implemented imo. They should have another go at it in VST form.

Also, implement it with MiniLab, KeyLab, and KeyStep rather than require its own hardware.

With that said, I absolutely loved the SparkLE hardware. It worked flawlessly and was super fast/intuitive to use.

Yeah. Maybe a Hybrid BeatStep Pro with a drum sampler built in that paired with a matching VST. Like an updated SparkLE. Or at least a BSP that that had more interaction with the VST software.

I tried the Spark 2 software recently and was left underwhelmed with the sounds coming out of it and the UI. I just hope they revisit it with an update to the concept.

I'd be ok with them simply buying Geist 2 from Roli and working it into the Arturia lineup with some hardware.. I really did enjoy the workflow and sounds in Geist.