Studio One 6.1 Speculations

[Vocalpoint Studios]

Saw the Bigwig 5 thread and though it might be interesting to see what the user base thinks might be coming in (what appears to be) S1 6.1.0.

Just took a look at the S1 release history in Wikipedia and this is the longest stretch ever between a x.0.2 and a (potential) x.1.0 - that I could find (except for v1 - which is understandable).

Today takes us past three months since 6.0.2 was released. With three months' worth of dev time gone by - I am hopeful that 6.1 is going to really build on the 6.x framework and take another leap forward.

All I can glean from Presonus themselves was a PM I had from an internal source a few weeks back indicating that testing was motion for a new release - which does not say much - but it's something.

Cheers

VP

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

I wonder if Presonus got rid of some developers, outsourced, or simply has them stretched too thin and working on other projects. I suspect the latter. But it looks to me like the pace of development has slowed down. You see that reflected in the longer waits, but also in the size of the releases. Some of the recent major S1 releases have looked downright small. And I don't buy that's because "there's less to do". It just feels like they're tackling some low hanging fruit, bundling that together, tacking on some stuff no one asked for, then calling that a major release. I think some of this predates the Fender acquisition, but it doesn't seem to have helped.

I'm not saying Studio One is dying and/or making a doom and gloom prediction, but just calling out that it seems like development is much slower with no real inkling as to why.

[skijumptoes]

I'm not saying Studio One is dying and/or making a doom and gloom prediction, but just calling out that it seems like development is much slower with no real inkling as to why.

New features may be slower, but i've not found development to be slower. They really cleaned out a lot of issues I had with previous versions since v6 was released.

To be honest, I wish Steinberg would take more of this sort of approach than just bolting on new plugins to sell new versions.. The issues with C12 over the past 12 months has lead me to using Studio One more and more.

I just hope they keep down this path to ensure that the DAW never becomes overloaded and bug ridden to the point where features just self-obsolete themselves. Everything feels snappy and fresh to me and it's testament to good development.

[Vocalpoint Studios]

I'm not saying Studio One is dying and/or making a doom and gloom prediction, but just calling out that it seems like development is much slower with no real inkling as to why.

I thought that too - especially after all that hubbub with that click bait Fender CEO post from late last year etc.

But after really thinking it through, thoroughly enjoying the stability and feature set of V6 and trying to visualize what v6 is trying to accomplish (and there's a lot to build on) - I am hopeful that this current gap is notable for reasons other than staff shortages or work on "other" things.

With that PM I referenced - the resource seemed to be quite excited in his response. Lots of exclamation marks etc. Not to read anything into it - but it "feels" like something cool is coming.

To be completely honest - I would be very surprised (and slightly disappointed) if we get a three line bug fix update after waiting for three months...

VP

[ralfrobert]

Studio One 6 is my go to DAW. For what I am doing on a daily basis, it offers much more features than I will ever need. Stability and runtime behaviour are very good. And it does never stand in my way. I hope they keep it this way, add some workflow features and perhaps put together something geeky that I can use but don't have to.

But this is just me.

[Korg Supporter]

I love Studio One for its snappy piano roll and minimal, no-bullshit approach to moving and arranging clips. I also find it efficient to work with automation and plugins inside S1. However, it would be nice to have CLAP support and modulators soon.

[qtheerearranger]

Scale fold like ableton which is a step beyond what we currently have with the piano roll scale highlight on keys. Custom scale importing would be cool too.

[jamcat]

I'd like to see the following:

Automation:

• Ability to reassign existing automation data to a new instrument/track and/or parameter
• Automation part containers for easy copy/paste, duplication, and moving of automation data
• Quantize/Humanize automation points

Editing:

• Audio editor-style direct waveform editing with standard tools such as pencil
• ARA2 menu integration for Acon Digital Acoustica

Mixer:

• Wet/Dry mix sliders on insert effects
• Time-delay sliders on sends

I'll talk about the last two:
1) A wet/dry control on each Insert plugin (similar to the send level on Sends) would be a much more simple and elegant solution to setting up a Splitter for tasks such as parallel compression.

2) Introducing a time-delay to the Sends would allow you to (for example) use a single reverb with different predelays for each instrument, to create depth in the mix. Right now to do that, you need to send each channel to its own intermediate FX channel with a time-delay plugin inserted (such as Voxengo Sound Delay), and then send on to the reverb from there.

These simple additions would simplify and streamline a lot of standard mixing practices.

[JoeJoe99]

2) Introducing a time-delay to the Sends would allow you to (for example) use a single reverb with different predelays for each instrument, to create depth in the mix. Right now to do that, you need to send each channel to its own intermediate FX channel with a time-delay plugin inserted (such as Voxengo Sound Delay), and then send on to the reverb from there.

These simple additions would simplify and streamline a lot of standard mixing practices.

Exactly. I've been mixing that way for years, using intermediate group busses to treat signals differently before they hit shared FX. For it to be complete, I would add high and low pass filters to that as that's something I also do with certain signals before they get to the shared FX.

[wuworld]

"This year, we have several exciting updates planned which will be free for PreSonus Sphere members and Studio One 6 users. Together with new hardware products we’re planning to release, 2023 will be a great year for the PreSonus creative community."
"While our focus remains on music production, nearly 50% of our users describe their main activity as “content creation” involving mixed media, so the line between pure music production and content creation involving mixed media is blurred. One of the main aspects that sets Studio One apart from other DAWs is how well it responds to a user’s specific workflow needs. This includes, for example, convenient drag-and-drop import of mixed content (audio and video). We’re planning to add more video-related features in our next updates. We’re excited to see what users are going to do with it."

Presonus General Manager Arnd Kaiser-https://audiomediainternational.com/pre ... s-swaffer/

[musikertimo]

Ah, ok we will see what's coming. Thanks for the link to the article.

[Fornicras]

I hope they do something about the browser in the next update, because it's unusable for me at the moment.

[Sinisterbr]

You know, I've been using Studio One for almost a decade now. Love it. But by reading what has been said above, I'm starting to worry about it becaming a jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none thing.

[Trancit]

You know, I've been using Studio One for almost a decade now. Love it. But by reading what has been said above, I'm starting to worry about it becaming a jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none thing.

For me at least chances are high that the next update years will get quite boring for me...
If I want Vegas Pro... I choose Vegas Pro and so should everybody who needs indepth video editing possibilities...
I hated this already with Reaper that they wasted time on this and this statements of the friendly Manager Arnd Kaiser sound that they are planning the same BS for Studio One...

While V4 and the point updates were all great, V5 was hard at the edge...V6 was already more than uninteresting... I fear V7 gets even worse... it seems they ran out of good ideas!

[Vocalpoint Studios]

Guys - to speculate the S1 is going to become Vegas Pro (which is still awesome BTW) is a bit far fetched.

No doubt that content creation is very prevalent these days - but like the rampant panic after that Fender CEO stated some generaist attitude that S1 needed a one page manual and users immediately turned that into a complete dumbdown of S1 v6 - I am not sensing whatsoever from Arnd's comments that we are looking at Studio One Vegas now.

There are certainly some "video" type things that a larger segment of the userbase has been wondering about - but I still believe that S1 is (and always will be) music/audio first.

VP