drum micing on a budget.
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Jaeson Merrill Jaeson Merrill https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=29081
- KVRian
- 1185 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from nowhere you believe in
hello
After all of my BFD'ing, and hearing awesome samples through THE BEST engine for drum sounds available..
i got an offer to record a band.
now, im not ready for it!!!
I have a few mics, and not really meant for drum micing..
so, i was wondering what some good mics are (or even better, a good mic package) for a quality sound in between 500-1k USD.
Im looking for overheads (see http://www.kvr-vst.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=713394 )
2 tom mics (one for floor and one for rack)
a snare/hihat mic (perhaps a bottom one as well)
a kick mic, for the beater side, and i may get that big drumshelled yamaha thing for the outside..
any suggestions tried and true?
After all of my BFD'ing, and hearing awesome samples through THE BEST engine for drum sounds available..
i got an offer to record a band.
now, im not ready for it!!!
I have a few mics, and not really meant for drum micing..
so, i was wondering what some good mics are (or even better, a good mic package) for a quality sound in between 500-1k USD.
Im looking for overheads (see http://www.kvr-vst.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=713394 )
2 tom mics (one for floor and one for rack)
a snare/hihat mic (perhaps a bottom one as well)
a kick mic, for the beater side, and i may get that big drumshelled yamaha thing for the outside..
any suggestions tried and true?
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Jaeson Merrill Jaeson Merrill https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=29081
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1185 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from nowhere you believe in
bump?
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
What mics do you have already?
If they really aren't useable you may want to investigate the complete sets that are available, as some of them seem very cheap these days.. can't recommend any though.
It depends to some extent what kind of sound you want: if you want a very natural sound (and you have a good room to record in) then invest most of your budget in a good pair of condensers for overheads, and make sure you have respectable pre-amps for them.
For snare & toms I suggest SM57's (or 58's: nearly as good & less fragile) which are usuallly quite easy to beg/borrow/steal; if the drum kit is decent & properly tuned there is no reason not to get a good sound from these mics (otherwise you're buggered anyway
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Alternatively, I'm quite fond of Sennheiser e604's, and they have the advantage of saving time & money in the mic stand department (they clip directly onto the rims).
Kick drums: D112's are cheaper these days, but personally I hate them! I get much better results with the Shure Beta 52, but it costs more..
My personal fave for kick drums is slightly unconventional: Beyer M88
These give a much more natural sound than dedicated kick mics IMO, and have the advantage of being great all-rounders too (guitar / bass cabs, drums, brass, vocals.. even my acoustic guitar sounds good through mine, though it lacks some of the sparkle of a condenser.)
Good Luck
If they really aren't useable you may want to investigate the complete sets that are available, as some of them seem very cheap these days.. can't recommend any though.
It depends to some extent what kind of sound you want: if you want a very natural sound (and you have a good room to record in) then invest most of your budget in a good pair of condensers for overheads, and make sure you have respectable pre-amps for them.
For snare & toms I suggest SM57's (or 58's: nearly as good & less fragile) which are usuallly quite easy to beg/borrow/steal; if the drum kit is decent & properly tuned there is no reason not to get a good sound from these mics (otherwise you're buggered anyway
Alternatively, I'm quite fond of Sennheiser e604's, and they have the advantage of saving time & money in the mic stand department (they clip directly onto the rims).
Kick drums: D112's are cheaper these days, but personally I hate them! I get much better results with the Shure Beta 52, but it costs more..
My personal fave for kick drums is slightly unconventional: Beyer M88
These give a much more natural sound than dedicated kick mics IMO, and have the advantage of being great all-rounders too (guitar / bass cabs, drums, brass, vocals.. even my acoustic guitar sounds good through mine, though it lacks some of the sparkle of a condenser.)
Good Luck
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- Banned
- 12367 posts since 30 Apr, 2002 from i might peeramid
worth the investment? eg. if you spend the money and then find that the experience of running a recording studio isn't for you..
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.
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Jaeson Merrill Jaeson Merrill https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=29081
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1185 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from nowhere you believe in
i dont want to run a recording studio per se, just want to record me and my bro and this other band and maybe some friends.. like climbing a mountain you know???
I already have:
1 misc shure mic omni dir
1 shure sm57
1 nady scm900 condensor
1 studio projects C1
..i think thats it..
I already have:
1 misc shure mic omni dir
1 shure sm57
1 nady scm900 condensor
1 studio projects C1
..i think thats it..
- KVRAF
- 4891 posts since 3 Jan, 2003 from Vancouver
If it's a temp thing, why invest? You can rent mics, can't you? Just get a crapload of SM57s and maybe a few small condensors to use as overheads.
I'm pretty sure there are drum micing tutorials on the net somewhere. I was reading one a few months ago... now I'm wishing that my brother's stupid Microsoft R&D project was more than just R&D so I could recall it quickly and easily!
I'm pretty sure there are drum micing tutorials on the net somewhere. I was reading one a few months ago... now I'm wishing that my brother's stupid Microsoft R&D project was more than just R&D so I could recall it quickly and easily!