no, cabs don't have dynamic information to them so IRs are preferrable. I've done plenty of testing on real cab vs IR made from the same session and people can't hear the difference, only if its loud enough to hear the room reflectionsjamcat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:38 pm TONEX captures can be done with or without cabs, and you specify the signal chain during the Tone Model creation process. The TONEX algorithm is somehow able to separate the amp and cab, and you can replace only the amp or cab component with one from a different Tone Model*, if you wish.
Whether or not there is a dynamic element to the isolated cab component of TONEX Tone Models is unclear, but I don't know why anyone would opt to use a static, linear IR for a cab over a dynamic ML model of one, since speakers are moving things with their own dynamic response curves and saturation thresholds. If anything, what I would do is capture both the amp and cab independently with NAM, and use 2 instances, rather than use ML and IR together.
* TONEX only. Not currently supported in AmpliTube 5.
the cab is a linear filter
tonex had lots of issues capturing direct profiles, at least in the first months since the release
well, there could be others that I couldnt get my hands on, but either way, using a real cabinet or a suhr followed by a corrective IR would be just as perfect.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:09 pm The only 2 attenuators/reactive load boxes with a DI output that will accurately capture the sound of the amp are two units that are very difficult to track down from companies I've never even heard of? And the Suhr, only kind of works? You see why I think amp only captures are not the best idea?
Who's got that? How is that easier than: point microphone at speaker about from about 2 inches away, move to center of speaker for brighter, and edge of speaker for darker?
or just using reactive load as is for that matter, its fine, just a little brittle
as for miking the cab - well its more complicated, for starters good speakers are hard to track down, and its already been done by Nolly and ML soundlab and whatnot, redwirez etc. they sound great.
I see your point though, I just believe the results are better when you can craft the sound in a modular fashion rather than hoping that the cab in some profile might work fine