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lobanov · Post by **lobanov** » Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:52 pm

BONES wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:26 am
You don't understand my point. People could push a knob and generate music using AI themselves. Without me.
There are a million people writing songs without you everyday. A few more won't matter.

Yes. But they do. They write and play songs everyday. Themselves. Why?

I didn't mean myself personnaly. I talk about goals and achievements, efforts, learning, searching for "the best" or being "the best", searching for what we could talk about etc. This is the essense of our lives. Not "the beach" only (but it is too, it could be stupid to argue to this).

But I know what to do. Using AI we should change parameters and push the knob hundreds, thousands or even million times to find "the best" variation.

lobanov · Post by **lobanov** » Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:05 pm

People who develop music AI love their computers and power they (computers) bring to them.
But they hardly love the music itself.

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:56 pm

I'd sugget the same is true of many people around here. Surprisingly few people seem interested in actually writing songs, they are far more interested in the tools and the process than the results. The day I can tell an AI to write me a new song and it can provide something I am 100% happy with will be a great day, indeed. It will take all the misery out of the process for me because I do not enjoy making songs, I like having songs to perform. It will be like having my own personal song-writing slave. I can't wait!

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:50 pm

You had me, and then you lost me.

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:43 am

jamcat wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:50 pm You had me, and then you lost me.

That could be a great Country song...
... aaand Western!

Michael L · Post by **Michael L** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:14 am

BertKoor wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:43 am
jamcat wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:50 pm You had me, and then you lost me.
That could be a great Country song...
... aaand Western!

aaaaaand Soul/Funk:
.

Artie Fichelle · Post by **Artie Fichelle** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:48 pm

Alot of music would be much better, if AI did it.

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 3:11 pm

Allott of typos / spelling mushsaps woudl'nt happen if AI wrote it.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 3:27 pm

BertKoor wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 3:11 pm Allott of typos / spelling mushsaps woudl'nt happen if AI wrote it.

depends on the data set used to train it.
uses 4 chan and most words will be sp3ll3d u5ing numb3r5.

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 3:52 pm

But at least it wouldn’t be woke.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:04 pm

jamcat wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 3:52 pm But at least it wouldn’t be woke.

im afraid i don't know what that actually means?

Nakahito · Post by **Nakahito** » Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:36 pm

I'm late to the post? Oh well. The thing is, you can't claim rights over AI generated stuff, i don't know if it's already penalized but it's mostly not permitted unless you work over the stuff yourself and give it your personal touch to claim it as yours, so yeah, you have to work anyways. Unless you wanna program a AI yourself to make a specific kind of music, but there's still the creativity issue, most AI generated tracks sound pretty much the same, if you never heard, then listen to any reggaeton track (?). Ok, jokes aside, you can never become a good producer by using AI, as you have to build up skills, a personal taste, criteria, and a portfolio to become one, how can you know if the AI is doing a good job without enough experience?.

mholloway · Post by **mholloway** » Tue Apr 04, 2023 2:21 am

The thread title is inaccurate: "...to make MY music" only applies to one of the two options presented for comparison.

More accurate would be:
"Should I buy a DAW to make my own music, or let an AI make music for me instead?"

If someone needs some music, then can create it themselves, or let something or someone else create it for them. AI falls into the latter category, quite obviously. It can make music for you, but it can't make Your music. That's on you.

Nakahito · Post by **Nakahito** » Tue Apr 04, 2023 2:29 am

mholloway wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 2:21 am The thread title is inaccurate: "...to make MY music" only applies to one of the two options presented for comparison.

More accurate would be:
"Should I buy a DAW to make my own music, or let an AI make music for me instead?"

If someone needs some music, then can create it themselves, or let something or someone else create it for them. AI falls into the latter category, quite obviously. It can make music for you, but it can't make Your music. That's on you.

Lol, that's a good point, never looked at the logic of the title phrasing.

Michael L · Post by **Michael L** » Tue Apr 04, 2023 5:56 am

How about neither?

“With electronic music, it’s so hard and it takes so much time to infuse emotion in the machines. To write a chord or a melody and have human beings play it and have this instant emotional quality to it, is really quite exhilarating. It’s not the fight you have against machines. My priorities in the world in 2023 are on the side of the humans, not the machines. I have absolutely no desire or intentions to be a robot in 2023. ”

Thomas Bangalter (Daft Punk)

Should I buy a DAW or use AI to make my music?