KVR Audio

Apparition · Post by **Apparition** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:26 pm

Does anyone know why my tracks out of tracktion render funny? Notes hang and the chords are off and out of wack. Someone mentioned a Direct to disk option fixes that but I dont see anything of the sort anywhere.

will.record.for.food · Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:40 pm

are they midi tracks? Are they audio tracks? What plugins or synths do you have? Sometimes just plugs with hi latency will get multiple audio tracks out of whack.

There are alot of tracktioneers out there who are willing to help...we just need a little more info.

Good Luck!

will.record.for.food · Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:42 pm

also...

If they are rendered tracks you are trying to burn to a disk, make sure the file is a 16 bit 44.1 file

LBN · Post by **LBN** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:44 pm

Have you tried the "render at 1x play-speed" option? I believe this was implemented to work around wonky plug-ins that couldn't render in faster-than-real time.

Apparition · Post by **Apparition** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:18 am

So far theonly plugs i have a problem with rendering are Ravity-S and Musiclabs realguitar. Notes are sticking and its annoying, ill try that 1x option and see how that works.

Apparition · Post by **Apparition** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:40 am

Ok i tried that option and i still get the same result. If anyone knows whats causing it, plz let me know. I have a nice tune i want to render and can't.

vtx · Post by **vtx** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:44 am

Are you rendering midi notes?

Apparition · Post by **Apparition** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:50 am

Yes and no. There is midi on the tracks but they are routed to a Vsti and they play fine while in tracktion but when i render them, notes hang and the Guitar gets way off.

vtx · Post by **vtx** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:04 am

Apparition wrote:Yes and no. There is midi on the tracks but they are routed to a Vsti and they play fine while in tracktion but when i render them, notes hang and the Guitar gets way off.

Then render each midi track to a wave file into the project,,don't delete the midi track right away,,just mute them,,

Apparition · Post by **Apparition** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:12 am

Nope I get the same result..hung notes.

vtx · Post by **vtx** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:33 am

Can you freeze each vsti track,,,then render..
The reason I say this is I had stuck notes before and they stopped when I froze the tracks.
But I didn't render from that position so I'm not sure,,,,, try it.....

Apparition · Post by **Apparition** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:44 am

Still no go.. lol notes still hung.

Apparition · Post by **Apparition** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:50 am

Had to add -1.5 ms of advance latency to the track. Thanks for the help tho.

Crossinger · Post by **Crossinger** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:09 am

Apparition wrote:Had to add -1.5 ms of advance latency to the track. Thanks for the help tho.

Just for additional info: apparently none of the regular Tracktion users starts at 1/1 with Midi or Audio material. Especially for rendering purposes the starting point is important. Seems like Tracktion sometimes doesn't cut Midi notes after stopping playback. While (re-)starting the rendering process you'll hear those "ghost notes" from the very beginning!

HTH

J.

valley · Post by **valley** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:17 am

when rendering it seems Tracktion can sometimes provide fractionally flaky timing to plugins. Whilst not enough that you could hear, or even probably measure, it can trip up some vstis into playing neighbouring notes as legato, or for a few plugs with suspect MIDI handling of their own, cause hung notes.

Usually if I get problems the first thing I try is to fractionally shorten notes so they don't butt absolutely up to the next note.

Horrible Tracktion renders..