Waves abandon perpetual licenses and WUP

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Yadrichik_Chaya
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463 posts since 5 Oct, 2021

Post Sat Mar 25, 2023 11:01 pm

Maybe they'll introduce ”Waves 365”?

One can now run Windows on an iPad thanks to Microsoft's Windows 365, which is a cloud based PC with your choice of RAM, CPU etc.

Maybe Waves will introduce all their plugins running on a cloud based PC/Mac so you can offload your real CPU, RAM?

Maybe the service will first be exclusive with only Waves plugins and later on with VST3 (just like StudioRack)?

Who knows…
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gaf_thit
KVRian
822 posts since 28 Sep, 2012 from Norway

Post Sat Mar 25, 2023 11:46 pm

Only found out about this randomly today too, but there seems to be no way to register the serials atm while the site is undergoing maintenance, so was the deadline prior to 26th march?

Kalamata Kid
KVRAF
5538 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Post Sun Mar 26, 2023 12:09 am

The way I would have done this was to have a well defined deadline then extend the deadline for a few days or even a week to include more people.

gaf_thit
KVRian
822 posts since 28 Sep, 2012 from Norway

Post Sun Mar 26, 2023 1:22 am

I have been a master of procrastination for years now, this will be included in my diploma.

Waving goodbye to Waves after this, at least I didn't buy that many. H-delay and O-vox only, as far as I can remember.

ramseysounds
KVRAF
1571 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK

Post Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:56 am

Kalamata Kid wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 12:09 am The way I would have done this was to have a well defined deadline….
Like the announcement on page 1 of this thread you mean? 🙄

Any plug-in installed via Waves Central is automatically registered as I understand it, so I don’t see what the issue is? Or have I got that wrong? 🤷‍♂️
I wonder what happens if I press this button...

Vocalpoint Studios
KVRist
303 posts since 20 Jun, 2002 from Calgary, Alberta

Post Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:16 am

This is wayyyyy bigger than restricting resellers etc - Just got this email an hour ago and they just killed this...

"Waves Update Plan is no longer available for these products. In order to continue receiving many of the benefits that Waves Update Plan has provided plus new products, features & services, you will need a Waves Creative Access subscription."

You can continue using the current version of your Waves licenses (main license only; 2nd licenses are excluded) even if you do not have Waves Update Plan coverage. You may purchase a subscription when you need the benefits provided by Waves Creative Access.

Waves Update Plan is gone - and Creative Access is in.

Discuss.

VP

Kalamata Kid
KVRAF
5538 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Post Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:20 am

ramseysounds wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:56 am
Kalamata Kid wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 12:09 am The way I would have done this was to have a well defined deadline….
Like the announcement on page 1 of this thread you mean? 🙄

Any plug-in installed via Waves Central is automatically registered as I understand it, so I don’t see what the issue is? Or have I got that wrong? 🤷‍♂️
Apparently you missed my earlier post. If "the announcement on page 1 of this thread" was well defined I would not be asking the questions.

When the say the 26th, or third or tenth the company always gives it to the benefit of the costumer meaning the end of the day or 11:59 PM. I am not saying always but iirc this is how it is in most cases. When this was not the case as in Wotja the developers Pete or Tim clearly explained it.
viewtopic.php?t=590153
"Our 30% off Early Bird 1 for Wotja 23 Pro Apps will be the very best one and will run from date of pre-order through to Jan 14th (i.e. it ends on Jan 15th).

The best way to state it imo is "on the 25th at 11:59PM"
Kalamata Kid wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:09 pm "All Waves serial numbers must be registered by March 26, 2023"
By the end of the 26th?
"Waves serial numbers cannot be registered after March 26, 2023"
On the 27th and beyond cannot register the Waves plugins.

I will spend some time today checking if I have any unregistered plugins.
But cannot as the site is undergoing maintenance.
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Kalamata Kid
KVRAF
5538 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Post Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:26 am

ramseysounds wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:56 am Any plug-in installed via Waves Central is automatically registered as I understand it, so I don’t see what the issue is? Or have I got that wrong? 🤷‍♂️
I believe you have it wrong as the only way to give away the Waves plugin with no fee to is to offer the ones that are not registered. But then I could also be wrong.

ramseysounds
KVRAF
1571 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK

Post Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:40 am

The fact you needed to edit your post 3 times speaks volumes
I wonder what happens if I press this button...

Kalamata Kid
KVRAF
5538 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Post Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:49 am

ramseysounds wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:40 am The fact you needed to edit your post 3 times speaks volumes
I was not expecting an Ad hominem attack by you. Very disappointed.

noiseboyuk
KVRAF
4650 posts since 25 Jan, 2007

Post Sun Mar 26, 2023 5:13 am

Vocalpoint Studios wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:16 am This is wayyyyy bigger than restricting resellers etc - Just got this email an hour ago and they just killed this...

"Waves Update Plan is no longer available for these products. In order to continue receiving many of the benefits that Waves Update Plan has provided plus new products, features & services, you will need a Waves Creative Access subscription."

You can continue using the current version of your Waves licenses (main license only; 2nd licenses are excluded) even if you do not have Waves Update Plan coverage. You may purchase a subscription when you need the benefits provided by Waves Creative Access.

Waves Update Plan is gone - and Creative Access is in.

Discuss.

VP
Yup, that definitely sounds like more than resellers being pushed out. I’m guessing the words “these products” apply to everything they make, but we’ll get confirmation soon enough.

The devil will be in the detail. If I can subscribe for a month to update everything I own to the latest version permanently, it would be a major win and better than the much-derided WUP. I think that’s unlikely, but just pointing out there is a way of implementing it that isn’t bad.

But most likely it will be bad. Even if they keep selling new permanent licenses, if you can’t then update them for new OSs then that’s a retrograde step.
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revvy
KVRAF
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3711 posts since 15 Feb, 2020

Post Sun Mar 26, 2023 5:30 am

Search “Waves Creative Access” and you currently get the same post from VI Control and nothing more. Waves really need to email this to more folks…
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28 posts since 2 Aug, 2005

Post Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:02 am

Vocalpoint Studios wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:16 am This is wayyyyy bigger than restricting resellers etc - Just got this email an hour ago and they just killed this...

"Waves Update Plan is no longer available for these products. In order to continue receiving many of the benefits that Waves Update Plan has provided plus new products, features & services, you will need a Waves Creative Access subscription."

You can continue using the current version of your Waves licenses (main license only; 2nd licenses are excluded) even if you do not have Waves Update Plan coverage. You may purchase a subscription when you need the benefits provided by Waves Creative Access.

Waves Update Plan is gone - and Creative Access is in.

Discuss.
I call bullshit. No information on this on Waves' website or the official Waves forum, and no trace of "Waves Creative Access" anywhere. You're the only one who got the memo, apparently.

Vocalpoint Studios
KVRist
303 posts since 20 Jun, 2002 from Calgary, Alberta

Post Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:28 am

opcode wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:02 amI call bullshit. No information on this on Waves' website or the official Waves forum, and no trace of "Waves Creative Access" anywhere. You're the only one who got the memo, apparently.
Call it whatever you want - here's what I got:

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And here's where the link goes - choose your plan wisely...

https://www.waves.com/subscriptions

VP
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revvy
KVRAF
Topic Starter
3711 posts since 15 Feb, 2020

Post Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:31 am

That links been there for, apparently, years. And it’s got a different name to the body of your ‘email’.
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