Generating noise and feedback via DAW Amps

[dave davies]

What's teh best way to generate sustained howling feedback if i am putting a guitar into an interface into a DAW? I use FL20 so i have a software distortion pedal Plugin and i have also downloaded a free AMP Plugin. I also sometimes use a real world Fuzz pedal put into the interface also. I don't want to use real world amps. I guess i could generate microphone feedback via the DAW also?

[JoseC.]

I guess that you could use a spare output and a spare input in your interface, if you have them, to create a feedback loop and use a volume pedal to control it.

[dave davies]

I guess that you could use a spare output and a spare input in your interface, if you have them, to create a feedback loop and use a volume pedal to control it.

I don't understand what you mean by spare output and spare input in the interface. Yes the interface has 2 inputs but the output is singular and goes into the laptop. Thing is with a normal amp and guitar you'd just walk up to the amp for feedback but with software it's not the same?

[whyterabbyt]

I guess that you could use a spare output and a spare input in your interface, if you have them, to create a feedback loop and use a volume pedal to control it.

I don't understand what you mean by spare output and spare input in the interface. Yes the interface has 2 inputs but the output is singular and goes into the laptop.

yeah, but some interfaces have more inputs and outputs than that. that's why they said 'if you have them'

but because you didnt actually bother giving any information whatsoever about your interface, noone will know for sure what it can or cannot do, they can only guess.

[nanostream]

You don’t necessarily need an interface for that. Most, if not all DAWs (no idea about FL, unfortunately) let you create internal feedback loops, and you could use a pedal, automation or whatever to control it.

[lfm]

There are plugins that emulate acoustic feedback too.
- Softube Acoustic Feedback, I think name was

Personally I use a floorboard pedal Digitech FreqOut. You can make sustained feedback up to in the range 10s or so. But I use tube amps(with silent load) as well that makes this more like the real thing, the amp adds harmonics as well.

To get levels absolutely right doing it internally in daw routings is very difficult. Certain frequencies are resonating and are to be amplified so combine with eq in feedback loop somehow. And levelwise delicate where it sounds right, very narrow range.

[pdxindy]

Thing is with a normal amp and guitar you'd just walk up to the amp for feedback but with software it's not the same?

This is one of the cases where there is nothing quite like the real thing!

[lfm]

I still think FreqOut does a fair job to do some sustained notes that end with feedback real nice. Hold the momentary switch just as you do that.
- you pick either even or odd harmonics, or both at random and level and time after activation.
- or just use as eBow style, no harmonics, and just rather long sustained notes.

Rather clever box IMO. And works for all that do home recordings where you have neighbours too.

But also saw loads of youtube review vids that did not use it right at all.
- here we have a new stomp box
- wonder what that do?
- missing the point completely just playing with it activated

I also discovered having momentary mode on, pedal is always engaged with a clean amp, not the feedback effect.
- having it as expected early in pedal chain means low impedance output and loss of signal through pedal board disappeared. So guitar output is low impedance and volume on guitar can be used with no loss of signal because of this.

Seymour Duncan has a pedal that do this impedance conversion too, to use for the same fix of volume control signal loss.

[dave davies]

but because you didnt actually bother giving any information whatsoever about your interface, noone will know for sure what it can or cannot do, they can only guess.

it's an SSL2

[HOTF]

The easiest way to do this is to put the amp sim on a return channel and send that return channel into itself.It's a pretty simple set up in Ableton i don't know how the routing works in FL but it,s probably possible to do so.

[Kenmac]

There's also this from Blue Cat Audio: https://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/P ... AcouFiend/

[dave davies]

The easiest way to do this is to put the amp sim on a return channel and send that return channel into itself.It's a pretty simple set up in Ableton i don't know how the routing works in FL but it,s probably possible to do so.

I can't see how a channel can be routed to itself.. in FL20 anyway.

[HOTF]

The easiest way to do this is to put the amp sim on a return channel and send that return channel into itself.It's a pretty simple set up in Ableton i don't know how the routing works in FL but it,s probably possible to do so.

I can't see how a channel can be routed to itself.. in FL20 anyway.

that's a shame. feedback loops are one of my favourite sound design technique