Which Filter-FX for VERY creamy Filtersweeps ?....creamyest in Town ? (other than the bundle from Moog)

[billcarroll]

creamy is easy, im looking for a more jam like textured filter (preferably strawberry, but will take raspberry if needs be) and possibly a custard filter too. thanks

Strawberry jam custard, the secret to a phat creamy bottom end.

Now I'm hungry, again

On a more serious note ...

Have you listened to the Moogerfooger MF-101S Lowpass Filter sound examples from Moog on Soundcloud?

https://soundcloud.com/moogmusicinc/set ... s-plug-ins

[sin night]

The MF101S is nice, but the hardware is at another level, especially when it comes to input drive/saturation.

I'm not an expert when it comes to software filters; The Drop is probably the first plugin coming to mind to many people (I don't have it in my plugin collection but maybe I should buy it, just for the sake of it!); another good choice is the MS-20 Filter by Arturia. There are other options out there, that's for sure; maybe NI Driver is another that could do the job.

When I think to "creamy", I think to a sound somehow "dense", with some saturation, so I maybe some saturation (like a tube saturation? or something like Mackity by Airwindows? I'd look for something that loses some highs when driven) before the filter could be useful, especially with "colder" filters? and maybe just a tiny bit of saturation after the filter, too, if it's still too clean? Although there's only so much you can do if the filter is on the clean/colder side...

[osiris]

I LOVE the one in Audio Damage Dr. Device. Just turn off the delay section, instant cream dream.

I'd never used that till they made it free last year, yeah, gorgeous sounding plugin.

You're probably aware they just made Grind free too, the filter in that is cool too, MS20 mode etc.

Thanks for that. I'd love to hear an AD MS20 emu. I'd also suggest the Vengeance Philta(?), but it uses a lot of CPU compared to Dr. Delay.

[El°HYM]

The MF101S is nice, but the hardware is at another level, especially when it comes to input drive/saturation.

I'm not an expert when it comes to software filters; The Drop is probably the first plugin coming to mind to many people (I don't have it in my plugin collection but maybe I should buy it, just for the sake of it!); another good choice is the MS-20 Filter by Arturia. There are other options out there, that's for sure; maybe NI Driver is another that could do the job.

When I think to "creamy", I think to a sound somehow "dense", with some saturation, so I maybe some saturation (like a tube saturation? or something like Mackity by Airwindows? I'd look for something that loses some highs when driven) before the filter could be useful, especially with "colder" filters? and maybe just a tiny bit of saturation after the filter, too, if it's still too clean? Although there's only so much you can do if the filter is on the clean/colder side...

Isnt that what you already got in the box?

Synth Warmer is an analog synth filter emulation based on the iconic 1970s monosynth ladder filter design, complete with overload distortion and self oscillation. Use to warm up your rude supersaws, add interest to drum loops, or create total sonic havoc as a sound design tool.

[sin night]

Yeah, I didn't really pay attention to the SynthWarmer plugin the thread starter mentioned at the beginning. For some unknown reasons, that plugin flew completely under my radar. Feature-wise, SynthWarmer actually does exactly the same thing I described (some saturation followed by filtering).

From what I can ear from the audio demos on Kazrog website, it seems a good plugin (and quite warm); so if the OP is looking for other filters, perhaps he has more chances by looking at different topologies than the transistor ladder (used both by SynthWarmer and the MF-101S)? Or maybe he could try a different saturation in front of SynthWarmer (or stack it with the one built into SynthWarmer, by driving both less) to try to get a slightly different tone.

[Funky40]

From what I can ear from the audio demos on Kazrog website, it seems a good plugin (and quite warm); so if the OP is looking for other filters, perhaps he has more chances by looking at different topologies than the transistor ladder (used both by SynthWarmer and the MF-101S)?

No, no other topologie. The Moog Ladder wins when it is about "the" Cream

I was not aware that "Synthwarmer" was in fact a ladder clone.
I just started freshly to use the Kazrog plugins again, after throwing these out ( vs. M1mac + security check hindering plugins to load)

[Funky40]

Rant vs. The Drop:

edit: last try to authorise my "The Drop" worked now. ( after X trys)
at least it seems.

[bmanic]

If you have Reaktor and Monark, you could try hack out the filter from it.. actually, I think somebody already made a module of the filter only and made a Reaktor block out of it?

I think that one is pretty damn well done, especially if you internally oversample it within Reaktor.

[dubguy99]

The Softube filters in Softube Modular are super creamy, probably the best out there in terms of realism, imo.

[MogwaiBoy]

If you have Reaktor and Monark, you could try hack out the filter from it.. actually, I think somebody already made a module of the filter only and made a Reaktor block out of it?

I think that one is pretty damn well done, especially if you internally oversample it within Reaktor.

Agreed the cutoff filter in Monark fits the creamy description perfectly. I have wondered what it would be like to extract it and try it on drums and other stuff - or if the magic is just in the combination with the Minimoog's oscillators and architecture - you know, like would it sound that "creamy" on anything else? Is the actual Moog synth sound integral to the creaminess? Hmmm, I am thirsty for milk and am lucky my country has the creamiest milk in the world

[osiris]

Moog filters seem kind of raspy to me, but that's the attraction. It's a good raspy not full of resonance like some filters get while sweeping.

[zerocrossing]

The Softube filters in Softube Modular are super creamy, probably the best out there in terms of realism, imo.

Agreed. Softube continues to knock it out of the park with every new release.

[jens]

A filter being in the synth vs "external" to the synth makes no difference to the cream.

Well, that may depend on the exact plugin in question and the host used.



Here's a good, concise explanation:

Nonetheless, the characteristic of the filter that (for me) defines the Minimoog is a quirk — probably serendipitous rather than a design decision — that causes the amount of emphasis to decrease with decreasing cutoff frequency. This is hugely important for some patches because dialling in emphasis (or resonance or ‘Q’) on many low-pass filters — including the Minimoog’s — attenuates the lower frequencies contained within the signal, and bass sounds can become undesirably thin and gutted. But, if the keyboard tracking is switched on, the Minimoog’s emphasis decreases as you play lower and lower, so you can have a resonant sound in the mid and upper registers that nonetheless retains all of its body and depth when you play low notes.

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/mo ... og-model-d

Nobody would use external filter plugins, modular synths, or modular filters if that ridiculousness were the case.

Well, I for one would never do that - too much of a hassle to set it up and use and really absolutely not worth it for me personally.

I sometimes love using them on guitars and what not though.

[Septic Underground]

Softube Mutronics Mutator, that's the creamiest for stereo work, imo
Love that one on the stereobus.
https://www.softube.com/mutator

jpg-product-mutronics-mutator.jpg

The drop is also good, but has too many options if you just want to do sweeps.

[discogsaddict]

Forgot to mention before. The UAD Moog is really nice! Although less accessible to users so maybe no use to the original poster.

^^ I demo'ed that Mutator vst briefly a few years back. From what i remember it sounded quite nice but the GUI was small and hard to read. And price wise it seemed expensive for what it does