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zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Tue Apr 11, 2023 2:45 pm

I’m wondering if people feel like the extra Amps/pedals included in Tonex MAX are worth the extra $50. Does it seem like a lot of filler, or is there gold in them thar hills? Would it make more sense to buy the basic version and buy commercial add-ons.

A bit about me, I like variety and very eclectic sounds from my amps. I’ve already got an AxeFX that I really like, but I think it’s also fun to explore stuff that’s not popular enough for anyone to model.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:17 pm

To be honest I can't answer ur question, since i haven't gone thru rhe majority of captures. I just got tired of trying to load a capture only to be told I need to upgrade. Eventually i upgraded to max and haven't had the issue since

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Funkybot's Evil Twin · Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:24 pm

There's some good stuff in TONEX Max over standard. Lots of guitar pedals, the Dumble (which I don't love honestly), some Tweeds and other Fender amps that aren't in standard (I think the 59 Bassman for example). If its' only an extra $50, it's worth it IMO.

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:27 pm

zerocrossing wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 2:45 pm I’m wondering if people feel like the extra Amps/pedals included in Tonex MAX are worth the extra $50. Does it seem like a lot of filler, or is there gold in them thar hills? Would it make more sense to buy the basic version and buy commercial add-ons.

A bit about me, I like variety and very eclectic sounds from my amps. I’ve already got an AxeFX that I really like, but I think it’s also fun to explore stuff that’s not popular enough for anyone to model.

Where do you get the 50€ number from? Last I looked, it was 199€ to go from Tonex to Max.

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:34 pm

I'd also remind folks that the TONEX pedal includes an NFR version TONEX Max. So if you're thinking of spending a few hundred bucks, ask yourself: what's the likelihood that I might want this in hardware form if I dig the software? It may be more economical to just jump to buying the pedal in that case.

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:19 pm

If the thing had decent time-based FX, I'd have gone for it. As is, it still needs those FX. Batteries would also be nice, say I wanted to go shred out in the garden on a nice day. But the pedal, TONEX and Amplitube together is a good deal. But I already have the equivalent of Amplitube 5 MAXX and Tonex.
I'll use my BOSS-GT-1 in the gahden.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:01 am

Bombadil wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:27 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 2:45 pm I’m wondering if people feel like the extra Amps/pedals included in Tonex MAX are worth the extra $50. Does it seem like a lot of filler, or is there gold in them thar hills? Would it make more sense to buy the basic version and buy commercial add-ons.

A bit about me, I like variety and very eclectic sounds from my amps. I’ve already got an AxeFX that I really like, but I think it’s also fun to explore stuff that’s not popular enough for anyone to model.
Where do you get the 50€ number from? Last I looked, it was 199€ to go from Tonex to Max.

I see that regular Tonex is $149 and Max is $199. Maybe that’s because I own a bunch of IK stuff? (I can also use my Jam Points, but that’s another story.)

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:02 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:34 pm I'd also remind folks that the TONEX pedal includes an NFR version TONEX Max. So if you're thinking of spending a few hundred bucks, ask yourself: what's the likelihood that I might want this in hardware form if I dig the software? It may be more economical to just jump to buying the pedal in that case.

I seriously doubt I’ll ever want to play a live show ever again.

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:46 am

zerocrossing wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:01 am
Bombadil wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:27 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 2:45 pm I’m wondering if people feel like the extra Amps/pedals included in Tonex MAX are worth the extra $50. Does it seem like a lot of filler, or is there gold in them thar hills? Would it make more sense to buy the basic version and buy commercial add-ons.

A bit about me, I like variety and very eclectic sounds from my amps. I’ve already got an AxeFX that I really like, but I think it’s also fun to explore stuff that’s not popular enough for anyone to model.
Where do you get the 50€ number from? Last I looked, it was 199€ to go from Tonex to Max.
I see that regular Tonex is $149 and Max is $199. Maybe that’s because I own a bunch of IK stuff? (I can also use my Jam Points, but that’s another story.)

That's just the usual IK pricing policies - people with little get rewarded much more than existing owners wanting to upgrade. That said, wait long enough and a good deal usually comes around for existing owners too.

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:24 pm

zerocrossing wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:02 am I seriously doubt I’ll ever want to play a live show ever again.

I'm not gigging either, but I'm a building a pedalboard around TONEX so I can jam via headphones in my living room or wherever without having to turn on a computer or deal with the volume of my amps. But yeah, not suggesting everyone rush out and buy the pedal, but if anyone thinks they may want it someday, it's cheaper to start with the pedal and just get TONEX Max free versus paying $199 for TONEX Max, then deciding you want the $399 pedal anyway and buying that too.

Different people will be in different situations. Had I known the TONEX pedal was going to be a thing, I probably would not have bought the TONEX software when I did (might've just checked out the CS version). So I ended up paying twice (first got regular TONEX, probably at $99 minus Jam points). But I do love it so I'm not complaining.

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:46 pm

zerocrossing wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:01 am
Bombadil wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:27 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 2:45 pm I’m wondering if people feel like the extra Amps/pedals included in Tonex MAX are worth the extra $50. Does it seem like a lot of filler, or is there gold in them thar hills? Would it make more sense to buy the basic version and buy commercial add-ons.

A bit about me, I like variety and very eclectic sounds from my amps. I’ve already got an AxeFX that I really like, but I think it’s also fun to explore stuff that’s not popular enough for anyone to model.
Where do you get the 50€ number from? Last I looked, it was 199€ to go from Tonex to Max.
I see that regular Tonex is $149 and Max is $199. Maybe that’s because I own a bunch of IK stuff? (I can also use my Jam Points, but that’s another story.)

I just tried to do the upgrade. Nope. It's 199€. 237€ with VAT. Minus my 20 jampoints. 217€. Not out of my wallet.

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:58 pm

Bombadil wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:46 pm
I just tried to do the upgrade. Nope. It's 199€. 237€ with VAT. Minus my 20 jampoints. 217€. Not out of my wallet.

You already own TONEX right? IK doesn't offer upgrades from version to version. Maybe try contacting support and see if they'd be willing to offer you a deal.

I think the OP was considering buying new. The difference between price of TONEX [standard] at $149 and TONEX Max at $199 is only $50.

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:01 pm

It's ok. There's already enough for me. Maybe if they keep adding more non-metal clean/drive tones I'll ask.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:19 pm

Bombadil wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:46 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:01 am
Bombadil wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:27 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 2:45 pm I’m wondering if people feel like the extra Amps/pedals included in Tonex MAX are worth the extra $50. Does it seem like a lot of filler, or is there gold in them thar hills? Would it make more sense to buy the basic version and buy commercial add-ons.

A bit about me, I like variety and very eclectic sounds from my amps. I’ve already got an AxeFX that I really like, but I think it’s also fun to explore stuff that’s not popular enough for anyone to model.
Where do you get the 50€ number from? Last I looked, it was 199€ to go from Tonex to Max.
I see that regular Tonex is $149 and Max is $199. Maybe that’s because I own a bunch of IK stuff? (I can also use my Jam Points, but that’s another story.)
I just tried to do the upgrade. Nope. It's 199€. 237€ with VAT. Minus my 20 jampoints. 217€. Not out of my wallet.

WTF? There’s no upgrade price from Tonex to Tonex Max?! How absolutely stupid of them.

I’m telling you, I think the engineers over there are doing great work, but the whole business end of things… they seem pathetic.

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:31 pm

zerocrossing wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:19 pm WTF? There’s no upgrade price from Tonex to Tonex Max?! How absolutely stupid of them.

I’m telling you, I think the engineers over there are doing great work, but the whole business end of things… they seem pathetic.

IK has never done that.

Their pricing model is based on enticing new customers with "crossgrade for a discount if you own any IK product over $99" where everyone qualifies, but there are no upgrade discounts for prior users (example Amplitube 4 users didn't get a bigger discount on Amplitube 5 than anyone else who owns any IK product over $99) or ways to upgrade between versions (outside of buying Custom Shop modules for Amplitube, or individual T-Racks to round out your collection).

It's very convoluted and not very customer-focused IMO. But it's nothing new. That's how they've been doing business for a LONG time now. Every time they release a major update to a product, there are pages and pages of complaints about it, or people asking questions because they're confused.

But, see if support can help/work with you. Maybe they'll offer deals if you contact them directly.

Tonex versions.