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BONES · Post by **BONES** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:56 am

vata44 wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:03 amI am just curious, could you have made Diva even more high quality? Like at the expense of even more CPU?

Apparently the RePros pick up where Diva leaves off, so the lowest quality mode in RePro is the same as the highest in Diva. So the answer is definitely "yes".

Have we reached pointless diminishing returns? Would you have to introduce unusable latency to go to the next level of high quality?

I'm not sure there is a next level of high quality to go to, is there?

Synthman2000 · Post by **Synthman2000** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:32 am

"Anyway, comparing Sylenth1 to DIVA is completely nonsensical. "

I see you sell Diva but not Sylenth1, has that got anything to do with this opinion ?

Comparing 1 VA to another VA synth is far from nonsensical. The OP's question is very broad.

Sylenth1 is the most successful softsynth ever made and it sounds incredible. You can double that accolade because it does it with extremely low CPU resources. The reverb is good and the distortion is good as well.

I will be direct....get your ears cleaned out or get some good monitors if you don't think so.

That seems to be the approach that garners respect round here these days.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:04 am

Synthman2000 wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:32 am I see you sell Diva but not Sylenth1, has that got anything to do with this opinion ?

It’s nonsensical to compare because if someone is looking for the sound of Sylenth1, they’re not looking for the sound of Diva, and vice versa.

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:43 am

Synthman2000 wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:32 am

Sylenth1 is the most successful softsynth ever made

Says who (sales figures please ) ?
Imho it's the most overrated synth ever made and way overpriced compared to the competition .
It's filter sounded nice back in the day (16years ago ) but nowadays it's just a basic va , nothing more nothing less .
Not saying it isn't usefull but charging 140 for a synth that doesn't even has osc sync and didn't have any signifanct dsp upgrades is pretty ridiculous .

Sawtooth Fairy · Post by **Sawtooth Fairy** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:44 am

Uncle E wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:04 am
Synthman2000 wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:32 am I see you sell Diva but not Sylenth1, has that got anything to do with this opinion ?
It’s nonsensical to compare because if someone is looking for the sound of Sylenth1, they’re not looking for the sound of Diva, and vice versa.

Well, all subtractive synths show a huge overlap when comparing them.
There is no mutual exclusion the way you have implied.

Sure, both examples do a few things the other can't do. But there is an overlap of 90%+. One main difference is FM if I am not mistaken. But that is not exactly the most frequently used feature of a subtractive synth, anyway. The standard synth sounds such as basses, pads, keys, plucks, filter sweeps etc. can be made on both without any problems. And one can make them sound very similar if necessary.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:02 pm

Sawtooth Fairy wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:44 am Well, all subtractive synths show a huge overlap when comparing them.
There is no mutual exclusion the way you have implied.

It doesn’t matter. If someone is looking for the sound of Sylenth1, they will not be happy with Diva, and vice versa.

Sawtooth Fairy · Post by **Sawtooth Fairy** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:41 pm

Uncle E wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:02 pm
Sawtooth Fairy wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:44 am Well, all subtractive synths show a huge overlap when comparing them.
There is no mutual exclusion the way you have implied.
It doesn’t matter. If someone is looking for the sound of Sylenth1, they will not be happy with Diva, and vice versa.

Why? We are not comparing a car with a plane. We are comparing two cars. They are in the same category and adhere to the same physics etc. Neither has "a sound", which is why you can make a song using both and nobody can tell which sounds came from which synth.
I bet a good sound designer can recreate the patches of one on the other and match them very well (except those that use FM of course).

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:49 pm

Sawtooth Fairy wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:41 pm Why? We are not comparing a car with a plane. We are comparing two cars. They are in the same category and adhere to the same physics etc. Neither has "a sound", which is why you can make a song using both and nobody can tell which sounds came from which synth.
I bet a good sound designer can recreate the patches of one on the other and match them very well (except those that use FM of course).

If someone wants a 1955 Ford Thunderbird, they’re not going to be happy with a Tesla, and vice-versa.

Look, I get what you’re trying to do but it’s unrealistic. OP wants something Diva-ish and Sylenth1 isn’t that.

El°HYM · Post by **El°HYM** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:53 pm

Uncle E wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:49 pm
If someone wants a 1955 Ford Thunderbird, they’re not going to be happy with a Tesla, and vice-versa.

Is that the One with those Woodpanels?

martiu · Post by **martiu** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:34 pm

if there is wood, it is proven to sound more analog

Lbdunequest · Post by **Lbdunequest** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:44 pm

gentleclockdivider wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:43 am
Synthman2000 wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:32 am

Sylenth1 is the most successful softsynth ever made
Says who (sales figures please ) ?
Imho it's the most overrated synth ever made and way overpriced compared to the competition .
It's filter sounded nice back in the day (16years ago ) but nowadays it's just a basic va , nothing more nothing less .
Not saying it isn't usefull but charging 140 for a synth that doesn't even has osc sync and didn't have any signifanct dsp upgrades is pretty ridiculous .

Says rational brain. Tell me please other synth that is more successfull. Please tell me which synth has been used as much. Please...tell me!

i bet 100 percent you wount because there isnt, thats a fact, not an opinion. What you said is not a fact, its just your opinion

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:01 pm

Remember when all those famous producers got caught using cracked versions of Sylenth1? If only for that reason, I would actually believe that it or Massive are probably the most widely used synths ever used.

GHOST19 · Post by **GHOST19** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:10 pm

My money is on Serum for the most successful synth ever.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:17 pm

Uncle E wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:01 pm Remember when all those famous producers got caught using cracked versions of Sylenth1? If only for that reason, I would actually believe that it or Massive are probably the most widely used synths ever used.

id say omnishpere, as most used
it's all over every episode, of every version of csi and ncis. and there's tonnes of both those shows alone.
then every scyfy channel cheap remake of blockbuster movie too.

syntonica · Post by **syntonica** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:23 pm

GHOST19 wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:10 pm My money is on Serum for the most successful synth ever.

Probably Neon. It's free!

How are we defining success? Number of legit users? Number of professional users? Number of records it was used on? Number of krackz? I'm sure the answer is different for each question.

Re: Sylenth as a Diva alternatives, I guess if you can't hear the difference, then go for it. But Diva is very A sounding to Sylenth's VA sound. Very markedly so.

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