Ooh, I like This Modular Rack...

[ghettosynth]

I like having a stereo mixer with Hector. I have a doepfer with voltage control that works well enough. I wish that it normaled the L/R inputs to each other when you only plugged into the left input. I guess you can modify it to be normaled.

[Stefken]

I like having a stereo mixer with Hector. I have a doepfer with voltage control that works well enough. I wish that it normaled the L/R inputs to each other when you only plugged into the left input. I guess you can modify it to be normaled.

Are you saying that you have a Hector, being an analog enthousiast?
I figured this device wouldn t blend well with you...

[whyterabbyt]

Oh, and fwiw, I went for a Tesseract Sweet 16 (mk2) with GESS instead of a VCMC, Tesseract stuff is very economical and it has more sliders, though no display.

Thx. It is on my list. The extra sliders are a benefit for sure.

I don t know where it is coming from.
Could this be coming from the US.

As EU customers you are f**ked.

Im in the UK so doubly-f**ked. Ordering from the US became untenable a decade ago, as far as Im concerned, now its anything that crosses water.
Ive bought all the Tesseract stuff I have (S16, GESS and 2 VC Logics) through Juno.

[vurt]

Oh, and fwiw, I went for a Tesseract Sweet 16 (mk2) with GESS instead of a VCMC, Tesseract stuff is very economical and it has more sliders, though no display.

Thx. It is on my list. The extra sliders are a benefit for sure.

I don t know where it is coming from.
Could this be coming from the US.

As EU customers you are f**ked.

Im in the UK so doubly-f**ked. Ordering from the US became untenable a decade ago, as far as Im concerned, now its anything that crosses water.
Ive bought all the Tesseract stuff I have (S16, GESS and 2 VC Logics) through Juno.

im surprised we haven't ended up like the eastern bloc did, with our own companies ripping off designs using old military hardware.
maybe once we get through the hunger games period.

[ghettosynth]

I like having a stereo mixer with Hector. I have a doepfer with voltage control that works well enough. I wish that it normaled the L/R inputs to each other when you only plugged into the left input. I guess you can modify it to be normaled.

Are you saying that you have a Hector, being an analog enthousiast?
I figured this device wouldn t blend well with you...

I'm often misunderstood, what can I say. Digital and analog both have their places and both should stay in their lanes. I hate certain modules that should be analog but are digital, but, I also get annoyed with modules that are stupidly expensive or mediocre because they are analog but would be better, cheaper, or both in digital. What I can say is that I really hate overpriced digital modules that try to sell you on their price based on features when my take on them is that those features aren't that impressive and that the hardware cannot possibly justify the price. No point in arguing about this, I don't need facts getting in the way of my opinion.

Hector is like a mini Reaktor in your rack. I like it for end of chain effects but also for being the center of an idea that is supported by other more hands on modules.

[SHall1000]

@ghetto - are there any modules you don’t have or haven’t tried?

[ghettosynth]

@ghetto - are there any modules you don’t have or haven’t tried?

Oh yeah, TBH, I do not, at all, have an encyclopedic perspective on Eurorack modules. Look to other members for that. I do have enough experience with analog and modular, in general, that I can quickly form an opinion. There are literally thousands of modules out there and I regularly discover new gems, often from other KVR members.

Also, my modular is still quite small as compared to others here. A lot of my potential HP are filled with other things, e.g., my fracrack stuff, and other 19" gear.

[SHall1000]

@ghetto - are there any modules you don’t have or haven’t tried?

Oh yeah, TBH, I do not, at all, have an encyclopedic perspective on Eurorack modules. Look to other members for that.

Well I have found your insights very useful.

[elxsound]

Anyone have input on Triple Sloths? Is there anything else similar?

I've watched a few videos and the one linked below seems to explain it well.

I don't think it's for me, because I've never done ambient, but I'm still curious since it's more than just setting the rate of an LFO.

Take a look at some of NLC's other chaos modules, to see if they would be more suitable for your needs.

https://www.nonlinearcircuits.com/modules?tag=Chaos

Stooges, Primal Hyperchaos and Spasm are good ones to start with. Primal Hyperchaos can definitely be built to run at different rates, depending on the capacitors installed, I know because I built one myself, maybe the others can be tweaked also.

Thank you! I’ll check them out. I’m not sure I’m up for building anything for a bit, but I’m completely unfamiliar with NLC so I am up for learning more.

[elxsound]

There are chaotic attractor modes in a few digital modules which do something similar if run at low speed. I use the one in Ornament & Crime; mostly they are based on the “Easter Egg” mode of MI Streams.

Huh. Actually I have Streams, should try that out.

Chaos is not the same as an LFO; in a chaotic orbit the signal should never enter a repeating loop.

I’m still leaning heavily towards adding Ornament & Crime so that might be the best for a while.
I just need to decide if I want Hector or not. I’m not excited by it, but it is seemingly practical.

[Shabdahbriah]

Oh, and fwiw, I went for a Tesseract Sweet 16 (mk2) with GESS instead of a VCMC, Tesseract stuff is very economical and it has more sliders, though no display.

+1 Tesseract Sweet 16 (mk2)

the Module No One Can Go Without

Ive said it before, and I'll say it again.

Ha! Ha! I dont have a Maths.

Nor do I. Had one, but I preferred 2x Function(s).

[ghettosynth]

Nor do I. Had one, but I preferred 2x Function(s).

That gives you more control over each of the slopes, but it doesn't give you all of Maths. I can see it though as they are smaller and can be spread out. I'd still like to see good alternatives that are as generally flexible. Even though it's not as feature complete, I use my 281t more often, I just like the feel of it better. It needs attenuverters and mults to bend the slopes though.

[PieBerger]

Anyone have input on Triple Sloths? Is there anything else similar?

I've watched a few videos and the one linked below seems to explain it well.

I don't think it's for me, because I've never done ambient, but I'm still curious since it's more than just setting the rate of an LFO.

Take a look at some of NLC's other chaos modules, to see if they would be more suitable for your needs.

https://www.nonlinearcircuits.com/modules?tag=Chaos

Stooges, Primal Hyperchaos and Spasm are good ones to start with. Primal Hyperchaos can definitely be built to run at different rates, depending on the capacitors installed, I know because I built one myself, maybe the others can be tweaked also.

Thank you! I’ll check them out. I’m not sure I’m up for building anything for a bit, but I’m completely unfamiliar with NLC so I am up for learning more.

Andrew stopped selling built modules due to health reasons but he has a list of more experienced and willing amateur builders from all over, not just Western Australia, who he could put you in touch with.

If you did want to have at go at building something for yourself though, Primal Hyperchaos is one of the more simple/easy going modules to source components for and assemble. It's a single PCB and only 50ish components altogether, including pots and jacks. This may sound a lot but compared to something like Hypster, another chaos-based module (originally designed by Ian Fritz), that has closer to 200 components, it's "easy".

[foosnark]

Ive said it before, and I'll say it again.

Ha! Ha! I dont have a Maths.

Nor do I. Had one, but I preferred 2x Function(s).

I've tried a few options (won't go through the whole evolution)...

Mini Slew: I liked the built-in VCA/attenuverter, but the knob response was kind of weird so it could be fiddly to dial in, and those blue LEDs were super bright. EOR/EOC output behavior was a bit weird. It wouldn't retrigger if the voltage of the trigger was below a particular threshold -- kind of neat if you can take advantage of it, but that threshold was more than my CV.OCD produced.

Rampage: didn't like having time range switches. Either mine had been built with 2-way instead of 3-way switches, or I never realized they were 3-way, because I had a choice of fast attacks but too short of a decay time, or good decay time but weak sloppy attacks. I did like the Rising/Falling gate outputs and the various combination outputs though.

Function: pretty great. Good knob response, just feels very musical overall.

Contour: it's like a Moog 3-knob contour envelope (ARSR) plus curve control, feels very much like Function. I picked this one up because I had an 0-Coast and this envelope was one of my favorite parts.

Maths: almost like two Functions, minus the Hold feature, but plus the center section. I really liked it, but decided I wanted to try some other stuff and sold it and probably I shouldn't have.

Tilt: feature-wise, it was better than Contour -- it had an output attenuator, separate curve controls for rise/fall, and could act more like a "regular" function generator than Contour. But the ergonomics always felt off.

Inertia: kind of an outlier, instead of a regular cycle mode it had "momentum" which is similar to resonance on a filter. If you want it to cycle like an LFO, you crank that up. If you want it to wobble in a bipolar way when triggered, turn it up partway. Also made for a pretty good oscillator, but was best as a unique kind of filter (separate resonance for rising and falling signals, and skewed resonance...!) But I wound up selling it.

After cycling through those options, I'm back on Function. I also have Just Friends and Stages for envelopes, or 0-Ctrl's or Minibrute 2's envelopes, or I can whip up something in Teletype, and then there's Bitwig Grid or VCV if I ever need more (I don't). And for LFOs there's also Kermit and Shapeshifter, Minibrute 2 and West Pest. That's plenty

[Stefken]

+1 Tesseract Sweet 16 (mk2)

Can you control a button over midi with a slider on the Sweet 16?
The use case was to manipulate the modules in the Hector UI over midi. For example on the Marbles/Chaos module : control the bias knob. But Marbles also has buttons e.g. the ones to lock the deja vu/ loop section.