I want to record a vst on a midi track in Cakewalk by Bandlab.
My midi keyboard is set up for the specific track and I can play the vst and can make music with it.
So fare everything ok.
No I arm the track and hit record and want to record midi notes on that track.
The curser that is supposed to show the songpossition moves two or three stepps and than stopps running and nothing is recordet, even though the vst gives sound and I can make music with it.
What can be wrong here?
Thanks a lot for all possible help.
I am on Win 10 and have the latest version of Cakewalk and I am using a wonderfull Arturia Keylab 88 essential.
Cakewalk does not record midi for vst´s. Solution found.
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- KVRian
- 996 posts since 22 Apr, 2004 from Switzerland
Try asking on the Cakewalk forum too: https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/forum/12-qa/
There's some really nice people there who know everything about Cakewalk
There's some really nice people there who know everything about Cakewalk
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- KVRian
- 1113 posts since 20 Oct, 2018
Do not open any other software on your pc than Cakewalk and see if that's better. Other apps on the pc can interfere with audio drivers.
If you have any audio on a track in your project, make sure your frequency settings for playback and recording are the same. For example 44.1 khz.
If you have any audio on a track in your project, make sure your frequency settings for playback and recording are the same. For example 44.1 khz.
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- KVRAF
- 7099 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
If it stops recording like that usually means nothing is armed for record.
If you created a Simple Instrument track, that means you should be able to record midi on the same track. But fader is for audio and meters is for audio too.
But is this track active and selected?
- some default settings may cause confusion
In preferences(press 'P' shortcut on keyboard) under Midi -> Playback and recording there are some settings
- allow midi recording without armed track, uncheck that
- always echo current midi track, uncheck that also
- I find it better to control with arm and echo buttons manually
You may find otherwise you don't have the recorded track active, and not armed.
- better with manual control IMO
As a test, create a separate midi track and route output to this synth track you created
- input is routed to your arturia port
- also activate echo/monitor button on it so midi flows through
- don't touch fader on this track, it will send midi volume CC7 to synth, so avoid that
Good thing here is that this midi tracks meters will show if midi flows through.
- so pressing keys on arturia will show activity just as you described too
- arm this for record
- and try again to record
And these plugins are very useful for Cakewalk
https://www.tencrazy.com/gadgets/mfx/
I always install TrackDiag that allow to watch what is played back on a track and PortDiag that show live input events on a track. Incredibly useful.
Just a few things how to troubleshoot....
If you created a Simple Instrument track, that means you should be able to record midi on the same track. But fader is for audio and meters is for audio too.
But is this track active and selected?
- some default settings may cause confusion
In preferences(press 'P' shortcut on keyboard) under Midi -> Playback and recording there are some settings
- allow midi recording without armed track, uncheck that
- always echo current midi track, uncheck that also
- I find it better to control with arm and echo buttons manually
You may find otherwise you don't have the recorded track active, and not armed.
- better with manual control IMO
As a test, create a separate midi track and route output to this synth track you created
- input is routed to your arturia port
- also activate echo/monitor button on it so midi flows through
- don't touch fader on this track, it will send midi volume CC7 to synth, so avoid that
Good thing here is that this midi tracks meters will show if midi flows through.
- so pressing keys on arturia will show activity just as you described too
- arm this for record
- and try again to record
And these plugins are very useful for Cakewalk
https://www.tencrazy.com/gadgets/mfx/
I always install TrackDiag that allow to watch what is played back on a track and PortDiag that show live input events on a track. Incredibly useful.
Just a few things how to troubleshoot....
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- KVRian
- 1113 posts since 20 Oct, 2018
One could also test to change the audio driver setting in Cakewalk. Wasapi or Asio.
Asio4all is a generic driver that is ok to use with generic audio as inbuilt ones like Realtek. If you have an audio interface you should get the specific Asio drivers for that.
I do lean towards this being a windows issue. Search thru windows settings. If you find Nvidia audio drivers you should delete them.
I have used Cakewalk by Bandlab since the start 4 years ago. Never had this happen to me. So it's hard to understand how this could be.
Asio4all is a generic driver that is ok to use with generic audio as inbuilt ones like Realtek. If you have an audio interface you should get the specific Asio drivers for that.
I do lean towards this being a windows issue. Search thru windows settings. If you find Nvidia audio drivers you should delete them.
I have used Cakewalk by Bandlab since the start 4 years ago. Never had this happen to me. So it's hard to understand how this could be.
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- KVRAF
- 19839 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
The key points.....Saffran wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:09 pm One could also test to change the audio driver setting in Cakewalk. Wasapi or Asio.
This is most likely a recording settings issue in Cakewalk. Anyway I just tried recording midi in Cakewalk on Windows 10 and it works just fine.classic wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:10 pm I want to record a vst on a midi track in Cakewalk by Bandlab.
No I arm the track and hit record and want to record midi notes on that track.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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- KVRian
- 1113 posts since 20 Oct, 2018
How to delete old Asio drivers:
viewtopic.php?t=61134
viewtopic.php?t=61134
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2597 posts since 26 Jul, 2004
Thanks for your ideas, but so fare nothing changes Cakewalkes strange mood.
As I said.
I create a new midi track, with a vst on it, lets say Dune 3.
I choose the hardware controller I have as input and can play Dune right away and I can hear it.
So midi comes in and makes its way to the vst.
Then I arm the track, and hit record and the songpossition line makes two or three jumps while I play and then it stops.
Metronom is clicking and that tells me, that Cakewalk wants to record, just the songpossition line has stoppt and nothing is recored at all.
As I said.
I create a new midi track, with a vst on it, lets say Dune 3.
I choose the hardware controller I have as input and can play Dune right away and I can hear it.
So midi comes in and makes its way to the vst.
Then I arm the track, and hit record and the songpossition line makes two or three jumps while I play and then it stops.
Metronom is clicking and that tells me, that Cakewalk wants to record, just the songpossition line has stoppt and nothing is recored at all.
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- KVRian
- 1113 posts since 20 Oct, 2018
There is these two files, "TTSseq.ini" "Aud.ini" that can be deleted and will be built again upon Cakewalk start.
But make a copy first anyway.
Sometimes a setting that went wrong get stuck in the ini-file. Letting Cakewalk make a new solves that.
But make a copy first anyway.
Sometimes a setting that went wrong get stuck in the ini-file. Letting Cakewalk make a new solves that.
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- KVRAF
- 7099 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
If you are new to Cakewalk and use those terms "create midi track" it may go wrong. The way that works is Insert soft synth.classic wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:52 pm I create a new midi track, with a vst on it, lets say Dune 3.
If you actually use that, it would be the words you use.
Don't get hung up on that you get sound. Something is missing for sure.
I suggest the following:
- use from menu Insert -> Insert new soft synth and the dialog that comes up
It sounds a bit off creating a midi track and place VST there.
- then you have to use Make synth track and things
- try the ordinary way
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2597 posts since 26 Jul, 2004
If i route the sound from the synth track to an audio track, I can record it.
Just the song possitionline does not move.
That gets more and more strange.
Happy that I have Cubase running:)
Just the song possitionline does not move.
That gets more and more strange.
Happy that I have Cubase running:)
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- KVRAF
- 7099 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
How about if you tried my suggestion?
It does all those things you now are ad-libbing over instead.
Insert soft synth
- in dialog choose if you want simple instrument track or both a synth and separate midi track
- choose which outs, if just first stereo or all that synth is capable of
- press ok
- select midi input port
- press echo on to get live midi through to play
- arm for record
- press record and play some notes, then stop
- done
Cakewalk/Sonar is different than most daws
- multi out VST instruments get all audio tracks for outs too
- so selecting all outs that synth does there is probably some outs you want to delete later
In Cubase and all daws I know only give extra channels in mixer/console view.
It does all those things you now are ad-libbing over instead.
Insert soft synth
- in dialog choose if you want simple instrument track or both a synth and separate midi track
- choose which outs, if just first stereo or all that synth is capable of
- press ok
- select midi input port
- press echo on to get live midi through to play
- arm for record
- press record and play some notes, then stop
- done
Cakewalk/Sonar is different than most daws
- multi out VST instruments get all audio tracks for outs too
- so selecting all outs that synth does there is probably some outs you want to delete later
In Cubase and all daws I know only give extra channels in mixer/console view.
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- KVRian
- 1113 posts since 20 Oct, 2018
An instrument track is what you get if you drag the synth from plugin browser synth tab to the track pane/header. It consists of both one miditrack and one audiotrack merged together in one track. With your synth in that you play and record in the same track.
You need the midi(track) to produce notes to activate the synth. The synth produces audio which have no where to go if it is in a miditrack. You can't have audio in a miditrack. That's why you have to do that extra step to provide an audiotrack that can handle the audio from the synth.
You need the midi(track) to produce notes to activate the synth. The synth produces audio which have no where to go if it is in a miditrack. You can't have audio in a miditrack. That's why you have to do that extra step to provide an audiotrack that can handle the audio from the synth.