KVR Audio

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:28 pm

There’s no sound in interstellar space.

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:49 pm

Bought VVV. Plates I doubt, but VRoom is likely in the future.
I'll probably end up getting 'Pro-R' too. Can't have too many verb algorithms.

the_eraser · Post by **the_eraser** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:38 pm

Pro-R? LOL.
Consider Sonsig instead, if you want another verb.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:56 pm

Pro-R has a unique character to it and works extremely well as an "extension" for whatever room signature is already within the sound. It's really good for any acoustic instrument recordings. It's definitely not a universal go-to reverb though. It can't do "Lexicon like invisible swooosh" thing at all and very rarely do I use Pro-R for synths as it just makes sounds too thick or too smeared way too easily. But if you need to augment a way too dry snare, kick, bass, guitar, vocal, violin, sax etc, Pro-R is almost always my go-to in these scenarios (usually set to be almost mono. The stereo width parameter in Pro-R is extremely well done and not just a simple mid/side control, it actually changes the delay pattern and diffusion).

Sonsig is also amazing! Highly recommended yes. It's super flexible yet it can't do the room realism thing though. It always sounds like an added artificial reverb to my ears, which is NOT a bad thing mind you.. it's what most people actually expect to hear from reverbs. Sonsig has that "Lexicon invisible thing" going for it too, meaning it will not interfere with the original sound sources tonality.

.. and yes, totally agree with @Bombadil that you can't have too many reverbs, ever!

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:00 pm

Oh and a reply to the original question. Vintage Verb is definitely the most used Valhalla reverb in my plugin folder. It's just so amazingly versatile. Vintage Room is a much more specific in it's use cases.

Ploki · Post by **Ploki** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:00 pm

fwiw i started with Room, then got VintageVerb some times after and Plate in the end.

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:14 pm

I reckon I have Space Designer plates as well as Sunset Studio's. Seems enough. Does Chromaverb do plates? I have 3 of Sean's paid plugins plus the freebies. If I getanother, it will be Room. Maybe after I bump into limitations with what I have.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:30 pm

Chromaverb is really great too! Completely forgot about that one. Whenever I work in Logic (quite seldom nowadays, sadly) I do end up using Chromaverb quite often. I don't know how good it's plate emulation capabilities are though. If I know I want a plate I always use UVI Plate as it's just so damn good for that.

adl · Post by **adl** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:53 pm

I personally go with Room for a more clear / clean reverb and Vintage for everything lush.
In my case it's Trap music and I pick Room for percussions and Vintage for synths. Guess EDM producers would pick Room for synths, but I like my synths so be a bit in the back / not to direct, that's why I chose vintage verb over Room for that. Percussions can be more crisp, so I pick Room for that.

jens · Post by **jens** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:00 am

bmanic wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:56 pm Sonsig is also amazing! Highly recommended yes. It's super flexible yet it can't do the room realism thing though.

I can't say that I agree with that at all - when it comes to realism, for me Sonsig is certainly right there at the top... the Quantec-inspired algo(s) with (for starters) Character 1, Rev-A output rendering, no chorus and not too much diffusion - do you really not find that realistic at all?

jens · Post by **jens** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:02 am

PieBerger wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:15 am
bagpipe200 wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2023 7:49 pm Did you get all the info from the Valhalla website? I had a look on there at Vintage Verb but it doesn't have the level of detail you have here.
The detail is there on the Valhalla site. Go to Plugins tab, choose ValhallaRoom/*VintageVerb etc., then scroll down past the picture of the UI and in the Modes section, you can click on each of the named headers, to reveal a more detailed description in the textbox directly underneath. The "Other Features" section below, operates in the same way.

Nope, the info there is really scarce in comparison to what I quoted here.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:14 pm

jens wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:00 am
bmanic wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:56 pm Sonsig is also amazing! Highly recommended yes. It's super flexible yet it can't do the room realism thing though.
I can't say that I agree with that at all - when it comes to realism, for me Sonsig is certainly right there at the top... the Quantec-inspired algo(s) with (for starters) Character 1, Rev-A output rendering, no chorus and not too much diffusion - do you really not find that realistic at all?

No. I don't know what it's about that one but I always struggle to get it to blend in a realistic "this instrument was miked in this room" type of way. Also it usually doesn't extend as seamlessly with an audio source that already contains room tone as for instance Pro-R. Maybe I'm using it wrong? Who knows.. I haven't tried it for that purpose in a long time though. Will take another listen.

jetbean24 · Post by **jetbean24** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:19 pm

Really like Valhalla Room on drums, Vintage Verb on just about anything else

soulata · Post by **soulata** » Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:25 am

I use VVV a lot. I don't have VRoom but I've recently found out about this and it's, supposedly, great. And free. And takes care of room verbs.

https://auroradsp.com/invisibleverbpro

kPere · Post by **kPere** » Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:53 am

soulata wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:25 am I use VVV a lot. I don't have VRoom but I've recently found out about this and it's, supposedly, great. And free. And takes care of room verbs.

https://auroradsp.com/invisibleverbpro

Yeah, SO transparent

Valhalla Room vs Vintage Verb