au contraire - it would matter very much. I wanted one badly back in the day.
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- KVRist
- 72 posts since 27 Jul, 2017 from Nova Scotia Canada
Taurus JS = BaMUSEd wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:16 am Ok from the Virus site the ROM that it comes with includes a mid bank 'ABM' (which should be RAM A, B and Multis) which starts with 'Overture CK' but the ROM that Osirus uses has internally a different set of patches that start with 'Autobend BC' - which is the correct set of RAM and ROM patches for the Virus C?
Also I can't actually see how you load multis
Autobend BC = C
I figured out how to do the Multi in Ableton by using what someone else had mentioned on Discord for another DAW.
If you set Osirus track to 'No Input' in Ableton after chosing the Multi Mode, then you can start directing the other midi channels to one of the Multis by using 'Midi To' under a Midi Track then from the drop down choose Osirus (or whatever you named it). Once you do that you'll see all 16 parts for 'Track In' under that drop down that can point to one of the corresponding Multis in Osirus.
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- KVRAF
- 2202 posts since 16 Apr, 2004 from between my ears
works great for both Osirus and Vavra!inception8a wrote: Wed Apr 26, 2023 12:20 am
I figured out how to do the Multi in Ableton by using what someone else had mentioned on Discord for another DAW.
If you set Osirus track to 'No Input' in Ableton after chosing the Multi Mode, then you can start directing the other midi channels to one of the Multis by using 'Midi To' under a Midi Track then from the drop down choose Osirus (or whatever you named it). Once you do that you'll see all 16 parts for 'Track In' under that drop down that can point to one of the corresponding Multis in Osirus.
- KVRAF
- 14107 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
I just posted I made this crash for the first time last night. Now I'm on Discord, I get email mentions notifications every time someone misspells Osirus on the chat. Funny. I had both Osirus and Vavra open at the same time and Osirus has never crashed FL. In fact I don't think I have the latest version because the one I have has been perfect. But I crashed it. I was really torturing the arp, and I've made a hardware Virus crash by doing that.
Someone mentioned that your computer plays both Carpenters and Metallica when I said the 2 emulators sound so different, but am I right that the chip emulation makes the sound? That's why you can't do, say an Andromeda emu. Different chip.
Someone mentioned that your computer plays both Carpenters and Metallica when I said the 2 emulators sound so different, but am I right that the chip emulation makes the sound? That's why you can't do, say an Andromeda emu. Different chip.
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- KVRAF
- 4070 posts since 22 Aug, 2012
Andromeda is not a relevant comparison as it's an analog synth. Virus and MicroQ sound different in the same way VSTs sound different. i.e. they are digital synths running different code on the same (emulated) processor.osiris wrote: Wed Apr 26, 2023 2:00 pmSomeone mentioned that your computer plays both Carpenters and Metallica when I said the 2 emulators sound so different, but am I right that the chip emulation makes the sound? That's why you can't do, say an Andromeda emu. Different chip.
- KVRAF
- 14107 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
It's an analog synth but:
http://www.synthfool.com/docs/Alesis/A6_FAQ.pdf
Andromeda uses custom Alesis ASICs (Application Specific integrated Circuits) to
create the sound. This is 21st Century technology,used to create the warm and vivid sound of a now historic instrument.
Isn't that a chip? I've read it had 2. 1 for the voice, one for the FX.
http://www.synthfool.com/docs/Alesis/A6_FAQ.pdf
Andromeda uses custom Alesis ASICs (Application Specific integrated Circuits) to
create the sound. This is 21st Century technology,used to create the warm and vivid sound of a now historic instrument.
Isn't that a chip? I've read it had 2. 1 for the voice, one for the FX.
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- KVRist
- 316 posts since 6 Jun, 2003
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alesis_Andromeda_A6osiris wrote: Wed Apr 26, 2023 9:42 pm It's an analog synth but:
http://www.synthfool.com/docs/Alesis/A6_FAQ.pdf
Andromeda uses custom Alesis ASICs (Application Specific integrated Circuits) to
create the sound. This is 21st Century technology,used to create the warm and vivid sound of a now historic instrument.
Isn't that a chip? I've read it had 2. 1 for the voice, one for the FX.
"The Andromeda has analog oscillators and filters combined with modern digital control. It can be considered a hybrid of older and newer technologies, but its entire signal path is purely analog."
The ASICs were for digital control of the analog circuitry and the FX engine.
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- KVRAF
- 14107 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
This is also from the manual:
It is very simple to make a “virtual analog” synth. All you need is an off-the-shelf Motorola DSP and a smart programmer who knows C++ programming language. That’s why there are so many of them, either in hardware or as software plug-ins.
'Simple'. Was this a sly dig at Access?
It is very simple to make a “virtual analog” synth. All you need is an off-the-shelf Motorola DSP and a smart programmer who knows C++ programming language. That’s why there are so many of them, either in hardware or as software plug-ins.
'Simple'. Was this a sly dig at Access?
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- KVRist
- 316 posts since 6 Jun, 2003
I don't think it was a dig specifically at Access, but rather any synth manufacturer making VA's at the time. That would have been Access, Waldorf, Novation, Nord and many others. When the A6 was released, VA's dominated the market and it was a big deal because there wasn't yet the renaissance of 'modern' analog synths, let alone ones capable of 16-voice polyphony.osiris wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 1:55 pm This is also from the manual:
It is very simple to make a “virtual analog” synth. All you need is an off-the-shelf Motorola DSP and a smart programmer who knows C++ programming language. That’s why there are so many of them, either in hardware or as software plug-ins.
'Simple'. Was this a sly dig at Access?
It's a bit ironic though, because Alesis had their own VA synth out using a Motorola CPU as well during the time the A6 was in the market -- the Alesis Ion. Alesis was very much ahead of the curve at the time, but likely many who do the same they failed to succeed. It was still a very expensive synth at the time and Alesis didn't have the alure and brand reputation to overcome a myriad of factors.
- KVRAF
- 20696 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Back when the Andromeda was selling for over $3,000 new, you could buy used Jupiter-6’s and OB-Xa’s for well under $1,000. Juno-60’s and -106’s were $400 all day long.
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- KVRAF
- 12442 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
I remember being in the Totowa NJ Guitar Center and playing with the giant OB-8 that was in the same room as the Andromeda. I believe they wanted $750 for the OB-8.Uncle E wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:16 pm Back when the Andromeda was selling for over $3,000 new, you could buy used Jupiter-6’s and OB-Xa’s for well under $1,000. Juno-60’s and -106’s were $400 all day long.
I bought a $700 Rhodes Mark 1 instead. As a guitar player, I wasn't really into synths at the time but I knew what a Rhodes was. This was at the same time that Juno-60's/106's were $300.
I also recall reading magazine articles at the time saying that the Andromeda was too clean compared to vintage analogs. This was long before "slop" being identified by manufacturers as a desirable thing.
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- KVRist
- 316 posts since 6 Jun, 2003
I honestly can't recall what I paid for my A6, but it wasn't $3K (couldn't have swung that). About a year or so after launch, Guitar Center had a pretty aggressive sale on them and that's when I picked one up. I want to say it was closer to $2000-2200 and I sold it for around $1800 in probably 2005-2006.
At least where I'm at, the only vintage synths readily available were the Juno's and yes, you could absolutely get one for $300-400 and often less, because they were so common. Everyone and their brother had one. Everything I wanted was substantially more, so the A6 was a good fit at the time.
At least where I'm at, the only vintage synths readily available were the Juno's and yes, you could absolutely get one for $300-400 and often less, because they were so common. Everyone and their brother had one. Everything I wanted was substantially more, so the A6 was a good fit at the time.
- KVRAF
- 14107 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
I know the Virus A was going for at least $1500. This was a very long time ago and it may have been used, though.
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- KVRian
- 1355 posts since 27 Oct, 2009
