Reaper is excellent software. It is not at all what I would call intuitive... nor is it particularly simple.SomethingSomeone wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 2:39 pm I haven't read many downsides yet about Reaper, being stable and low cpu are big ups for me. I may get into the customization and personalization features, especially with tweaking it's interface. I really just want something simple and intuitive.
Is REAPER the current best long term choice?
- KVRAF
- 26963 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
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- KVRAF
- 5067 posts since 27 Jul, 2004
Very true... Reaper is the Linux of the DAWs...pdxindy wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 3:56 pmReaper is excellent software. It is not at all what I would call intuitive... nor is it particularly simple.SomethingSomeone wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 2:39 pm I haven't read many downsides yet about Reaper, being stable and low cpu are big ups for me. I may get into the customization and personalization features, especially with tweaking it's interface. I really just want something simple and intuitive.
It's actually like a child's room where someone has opened the roof and tipped it full to the top with toys....
It's all yours now...
But you have to clean it up yourself and find a place for them, many toys don't work the way you thought they would and for some you need a degree in rocket science and quantum physics to be able to use them.
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- KVRAF
- 2908 posts since 26 Oct, 2007 from Kent, UK
To call it the Linux of DAWs is a bit of an exaggeration. It's perfectly useable as is. Yes, it's menus are disorganised and there's duplicated functionality all over the place - but - I think this is somewhat unavoidable given the perpetual updating. If you're versed in audio software it would only take maybe a day to reorganise things and remove the duplicates. People organise so many things about their lives.. I organise my tool shed the way I want it, my studio the way I want it. I fully welcome being able to organise the software I do all my professional work in. Not really sure why that's seen as a such a negative by so many?Trancit wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 4:15 pmVery true... Reaper is the Linux of the DAWs...pdxindy wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 3:56 pmReaper is excellent software. It is not at all what I would call intuitive... nor is it particularly simple.SomethingSomeone wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 2:39 pm I haven't read many downsides yet about Reaper, being stable and low cpu are big ups for me. I may get into the customization and personalization features, especially with tweaking it's interface. I really just want something simple and intuitive.
It's actually like a child's room where someone has opened the roof and tipped it full to the top with toys....
It's all yours now...
But you have to clean it up yourself and find a place for them, many toys don't work the way you thought they would and for some you need a degree in rocket science and quantum physics to be able to use them.
- KVRAF
- 5381 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
Huh?do_androids_dream wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 10:56 pmIf you're versed in audio software it would only take maybe a day to reorganise things... Not really sure why that's seen as a such a negative by so many?
How is it remotely possible for a new user to customise Reaper in maybe a day?
Kenny Gioia recommends a long list of videos to watch before you customise Reaper.
Or you could read the 450-page User Guide.
Either one will take much longer than a day.
Even Admiral Bumblebee-- a hardcore DAW expert-- spent a month!
What is your secret?
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- KVRAF
- 7116 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
I didn't see it as a negative post. I think of Linux like a modular synth. You have the flexibility and the capability to do pretty much anything you can imagine.......if you just take the time to learn how to use it...and while it is "different", it isn't necessarily "hard".do_androids_dream wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 10:56 pmTo call it the Linux of DAWs is a bit of an exaggeration. It's perfectly useable as is. Yes, it's menus are disorganised and there's duplicated functionality all over the place - but - I think this is somewhat unavoidable given the perpetual updating. If you're versed in audio software it would only take maybe a day to reorganise things and remove the duplicates. People organise so many things about their lives.. I organise my tool shed the way I want it, my studio the way I want it. I fully welcome being able to organise the software I do all my professional work in. Not really sure why that's seen as a such a negative by so many?Trancit wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 4:15 pmVery true... Reaper is the Linux of the DAWs...pdxindy wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 3:56 pmReaper is excellent software. It is not at all what I would call intuitive... nor is it particularly simple.SomethingSomeone wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 2:39 pm I haven't read many downsides yet about Reaper, being stable and low cpu are big ups for me. I may get into the customization and personalization features, especially with tweaking it's interface. I really just want something simple and intuitive.
It's actually like a child's room where someone has opened the roof and tipped it full to the top with toys....
It's all yours now...
But you have to clean it up yourself and find a place for them, many toys don't work the way you thought they would and for some you need a degree in rocket science and quantum physics to be able to use them.
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
- KVRAF
- 26963 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
You just perfectly demonstrated why it is the Linux of DAW'sdo_androids_dream wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 10:56 pm
To call it the Linux of DAWs is a bit of an exaggeration. It's perfectly useable as is. Yes, it's menus are disorganised and there's duplicated functionality all over the place - but - I think this is somewhat unavoidable given the perpetual updating. If you're versed in audio software it would only take maybe a day to reorganise things and remove the duplicates.
(No way it would only take a day)
Btw, to me, calling it the Linux of DAW's is not a criticism... just something to understand. Linux is great, but not for everyone.
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- KVRAF
- 3402 posts since 6 Nov, 2006
this just sounds like a MOTU DP descriptionpdxindy wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 1:41 amYou just perfectly demonstrated why it is the Linux of DAW'sdo_androids_dream wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 10:56 pm
To call it the Linux of DAWs is a bit of an exaggeration. It's perfectly useable as is. Yes, it's menus are disorganised and there's duplicated functionality all over the place - but - I think this is somewhat unavoidable given the perpetual updating. If you're versed in audio software it would only take maybe a day to reorganise things and remove the duplicates.![]()
(No way it would only take a day)
Btw, to me, calling it the Linux of DAW's is not a criticism... just something to understand. Linux is great, but not for everyone.
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- KVRist
- 302 posts since 25 Jun, 2005
I know a few people who wanted to record their guitar and vocals and Reaper was the easiest for them, because while we see it as complicated and a girth of functions to assemble - some newbies see it as clean and simple.Michael L wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 11:25 pm How is it remotely possible for a new user to customise Reaper in maybe a day?
If you're not comparing it to an already established DAW workflow it's a different perspective.
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- KVRAF
- 8025 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
There is a similarity, but IMO anyway DP is set up more like tape recorders. DP gets weird when you add in V-racks and Chunks, if you stick to a single Sequence it's pretty straight forward. There's a lot of ways to do the same thing, but it's less roll your own, more jack of all trades.dayjob wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 2:03 amthis just sounds like a MOTU DP descriptionpdxindy wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 1:41 amYou just perfectly demonstrated why it is the Linux of DAW'sdo_androids_dream wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 10:56 pm
To call it the Linux of DAWs is a bit of an exaggeration. It's perfectly useable as is. Yes, it's menus are disorganised and there's duplicated functionality all over the place - but - I think this is somewhat unavoidable given the perpetual updating. If you're versed in audio software it would only take maybe a day to reorganise things and remove the duplicates.![]()
(No way it would only take a day)
Btw, to me, calling it the Linux of DAW's is not a criticism... just something to understand. Linux is great, but not for everyone.
I do like Logic, but if DP ever goes tits up, I would probably migrate to Reaper.
- KVRer
- 26 posts since 26 Jul, 2021
With the Reaper you can do everything the other DAWs do and about 25% extra. It does not have built-in instruments like others but plugins can be used. According to my logic it is very intuitive and easy to use, it also consumes very few resources.
In the latest versions appeared unnecessary functions that more confuse, that's a minus, until version 6 was obviously the best DAW.
In the latest versions appeared unnecessary functions that more confuse, that's a minus, until version 6 was obviously the best DAW.
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- KVRAF
- 2908 posts since 26 Oct, 2007 from Kent, UK
Like I said, it's perfectly useable as is, and the 'new user' argument is always going to be 100% subjective. When I was a new user of any DAW software, I found Reaper - by far - to be the most straight forward and logical for me personally.Michael L wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 11:25 pm
How is it remotely possible for a new user to customise Reaper in maybe a day?
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Kenny Gioia recommends a long list of videos to watch before you customise Reaper.
Or you could read the 450-page User Guide.
Either one will take much longer than a day.
Even Admiral Bumblebee-- a hardcore DAW expert-- spent a month!
What is your secret?
I said 'reorganise and remove duplicates' - tidying up - not necessarily customising. That can easily be done in a day (a few hours probably).
- KVRAF
- 26963 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
There is plenty of functionality that other DAW's have that Reaper doesn't. I like Reaper, but come on!EmRysRa wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 9:49 am With the Reaper you can do everything the other DAWs do and about 25% extra.
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- KVRAF
- 5573 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
The can of worms is leaking… 
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- KVRist
- 362 posts since 11 Jan, 2014
Here we go: in Reaper there's ALWAYS a preference to interfere with your intended task...
I once learned about a preference to tell Reaper that 1 bar of Midi should remain 1 bar after changing the song Tempo...