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vurt wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:05 pm the poly, you either have to send back or sell, which is annoying.
I recently bought a Polybrute (online). Sending it back would've been annoying indeed. It's big and heavy and I don't have a car/licence (to transport it to the post office).

Luckily, I love the thing! (and no technical issues)

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One thing to consider about all of this is the keybed. I’m quite picky about the feel of the keybed. I prefer the semi weighted feel of the old Ensoniq and Roland or Fatar Studiologic keybeds. There have been some great sounding synths with lousy keybeds. That’s why I’ve never been completely married to the idea of attached keyboards. Take the Prophet that I mentioned earlier:

https://reverb.com/p/dave-smith-instrum ... PMQAvD_BwE

This desktop module would let you pick a nice midi controller, while still having all the knob twisting functionality of the synth. I’ve had synths with keyboards in the past that I would plug into my main controller rather than playing directly because I hated the keybed feel so much. It’s something to consider...
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audiojunkie wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:45 pm One thing to consider about all of this is the keybed. I’m quite picky about the feel of the keybed. I prefer the semi weighted feel of the old Ensoniq and Roland or Fatar Studiologic keybeds. There have been some great sounding synths with lousy keybeds. That’s why I’ve never been completely married to the idea of attached keyboards. Take the Prophet that I mentioned earlier:
I haven't encountered many keys that bothered me. Only one that I can think of: the Korg MS20 usb controller.
I have more issues with wobbly knobs/sliders, or when they're too small, or spaced too close together.

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T-CM11 wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:56 pm
audiojunkie wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:45 pm One thing to consider about all of this is the keybed. I’m quite picky about the feel of the keybed. I prefer the semi weighted feel of the old Ensoniq and Roland or Fatar Studiologic keybeds. There have been some great sounding synths with lousy keybeds. That’s why I’ve never been completely married to the idea of attached keyboards. Take the Prophet that I mentioned earlier:
I haven't encountered many keys that bothered me. Only one that I can think of: the Korg MS20 usb controller.
I have more issues with wobbly knobs/sliders, or when they're too small, or spaced too close together.
That too! That’s why I was never interested in those tiny Roland boutique remakes. Using hardware is about the tactile feel of everything, as much as the sound—otherwise, there’s no reason to not use plugins.
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Change everything. Behringer have released their Pro800 for US$399! :o
It's 8 voice all analogue, emu of the old Sequential, and though not the most mega-featured poly you can get, it blows all others out of the water. 1/4 the price of the nearest competitor. Even blows away their own Deepmind. And it WILL sound like what it's emulating. There's a section of music-based interwebz that detest anything Behringer, but most who actually own them know they're good. Ignore the web bullshit - I've got Behringer gear going back decades that have outlasted far fancier and more expensive gear. I have a Lexicon and LA comp that are poorly, bought at the same time as 2 cheapo Behringer units in the 90s and those are still going strong.

I bought a Wasp, 2600, TD3 and Monopoly and can tell you they are f**king great synths. They sit alongside others far more expensive synths very happily.

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audiojunkie wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:08 pm
T-CM11 wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:56 pm
audiojunkie wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:45 pm One thing to consider about all of this is the keybed. I’m quite picky about the feel of the keybed. I prefer the semi weighted feel of the old Ensoniq and Roland or Fatar Studiologic keybeds. There have been some great sounding synths with lousy keybeds. That’s why I’ve never been completely married to the idea of attached keyboards. Take the Prophet that I mentioned earlier:
I haven't encountered many keys that bothered me. Only one that I can think of: the Korg MS20 usb controller.
I have more issues with wobbly knobs/sliders, or when they're too small, or spaced too close together.
That too! That’s why I was never interested in those tiny Roland boutique remakes. Using hardware is about the tactile feel of everything, as much as the sound—otherwise, there’s no reason to not use plugins.
Going on 5 years later with the SE-02 and I still enjoy using it. And the sounds it produces are fantastic.

And there's no reason to not use plugins regardless of whether or not you also use hardware.

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kritikon wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:13 am Change everything. Behringer have released their Pro800 for US$399!
If one wants a poly analogue you really can't lose with this. Get one, then if you don't like it, sell it on.

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yup, even im not gonna say wait till you've tried some at this price.
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....AAAND you can get exactly the type of master midi controller you want for it, with whatever features you want—including a quality keybed! 😎👍🏼
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.:mad:
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audiojunkie wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:45 pm One thing to consider about all of this is the keybed. I’m quite picky about the feel of the keybed. I prefer the semi weighted feel of the old Ensoniq and Roland or Fatar Studiologic keybeds. There have been some great sounding synths with lousy keybeds. That’s why I’ve never been completely married to the idea of attached keyboards. Take the Prophet that I mentioned earlier:

This desktop module would let you pick a nice midi controller, while still having all the knob twisting functionality of the synth. I’ve had synths with keyboards in the past that I would plug into my main controller rather than playing directly because I hated the keybed feel so much. It’s something to consider...
Sometimes my favourite way to play synths is from my digital piano. The extra feel can help me play better, especiaily for a poly where I'm less likely to want to tweak.

I wish there was some kind of small midi controller just with some knobs, sliders, maybe drum pad, and most importantly some pitch/mod and other wheels that could extend the piano into more of a controller.

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vitocorleone123 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 4:17 pmGoing on 5 years later with the SE-02 and I still enjoy using it. And the sounds it produces are fantastic.
I was just thinking this morning that it is so long since I've plugged in my Analog Keys, which I also bought 5 years ago, that I have completely forgotten how to use it, beyond what I knew before I bought it. I am going to have to learn it all over again when/if we ever get around to rehearsing for a live show. But one thing is for sure, though - I will be interfacing with it via Overbridge in Studio One, not from its front panel.
NOVAkILL : Legion GO, AMD Z1x, 16GB RAM, Win11 | Audient EVO 8 | Lumi Keys | Studio Pro 8
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron

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BONES wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 3:12 am
vitocorleone123 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 4:17 pmGoing on 5 years later with the SE-02 and I still enjoy using it. And the sounds it produces are fantastic.
I was just thinking this morning that it is so long since I've plugged in my Analog Keys, which I also bought 5 years ago, that I have completely forgotten how to use it, beyond what I knew before I bought it. I am going to have to learn it all over again when/if we ever get around to rehearsing for a live show. But one thing is for sure, though - I will be interfacing with it via Overbridge in Studio One, not from its front panel.
It’s like a new synth! Helps with GAS….

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It will be lucky if I don't get the shits with it in half-an-hour and put it up on eBay. The last thing I have time for is learning a new f**king synth.
NOVAkILL : Legion GO, AMD Z1x, 16GB RAM, Win11 | Audient EVO 8 | Lumi Keys | Studio Pro 8
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron

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I knew from the sidebar this topic would draw in BONES. :hihi:
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP

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kritikon wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:13 am Change everything. Behringer have released their Pro800 for US$399!
Yeah but it only has a low-pass filter. That seems pointless to me. I wouldn't swap my Uno Pro for one. Thinking about it, I wouldn't swap my Uno Pro for anything less than an Aston Martin.
I bought a Wasp, 2600, TD3 and Monopoly and can tell you they are f**king great synths.
Of course they are, they were created by serious, passionate people who don't deserve to be ripped off by some German dickhead.
NOVAkILL : Legion GO, AMD Z1x, 16GB RAM, Win11 | Audient EVO 8 | Lumi Keys | Studio Pro 8
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron

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