KVR Audio

lucascajuhy · Post by **lucascajuhy** » Fri May 19, 2023 6:31 pm

For me, Audio Ease and Kush seem to be competing for the last place in the Silicon run. Plugin Alliance has some stuff they need to update as well, but most of it is there. I thought Kush would get last place, but they finally gave some information about the updates with their open beta thing.

Crazy to think it's almost been three years since the first M1 Mac launched. I remember seeing Fab Filter rolling out updates a month after the M1 release and thinking to myself "well, it shouldn't take long for the other companies"...

JonathanLevine · Post by **JonathanLevine** » Fri May 19, 2023 10:10 pm

lucascajuhy wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 6:31 pm I remember seeing Fab Filter rolling out updates a month after the M1 release and thinking to myself "well, it shouldn't take long for the other companies"...

Yeah, definitely some funny sh*t right there looking back.

machinesworking · Post by **machinesworking** » Sat May 20, 2023 12:09 am

lucascajuhy wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 6:31 pm For me, Audio Ease and Kush seem to be competing for the last place in the Silicon run. Plugin Alliance has some stuff they need to update as well, but most of it is there. I thought Kush would get last place, but they finally gave some information about the updates with their open beta thing.

Crazy to think it's almost been three years since the first M1 Mac launched. I remember seeing Fab Filter rolling out updates a month after the M1 release and thinking to myself "well, it shouldn't take long for the other companies"...

Personally VSL VEP as well. They're in closed beta anyway.

Audio Ease will likely be a paid upgrade, it's been over a decade since Speakerphone 2 and Altiverb 7, and they're working on ambisonic versions according to on of them in a podcast I listened to recently.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Sat May 20, 2023 1:16 am

JonathanLevine wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 10:10 pm
lucascajuhy wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 6:31 pm I remember seeing Fab Filter rolling out updates a month after the M1 release and thinking to myself "well, it shouldn't take long for the other companies"...
Yeah, definitely some funny sh*t right there looking back.

FabFilter is always very quick with support for new hardware. The exact same time happened last time around when Mac went from IBM CPUs to Intel.

JonathanLevine · Post by **JonathanLevine** » Sat May 20, 2023 4:02 am

bmanic wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 1:16 am
JonathanLevine wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 10:10 pm
lucascajuhy wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 6:31 pm I remember seeing Fab Filter rolling out updates a month after the M1 release and thinking to myself "well, it shouldn't take long for the other companies"...
Yeah, definitely some funny sh*t right there looking back.
FabFilter is always very quick with support for new hardware. The exact same time happened last time around when Mac went from IBM CPUs to Intel.

Yup, and their customer service is top-notch as well. Some of my most-used plug-ins ever. They will proudly receive my money for years to come.

This whole Apple silicon transition really showed us which developers truly care about their customers/software that’s for sure.

12bitcrunch · Post by **12bitcrunch** » Sun May 21, 2023 12:59 pm

Don't forget TC Electronic. Although there is a comment on this video that is encouraging:

dayjob · Post by **dayjob** » Sun May 21, 2023 2:08 pm

12bitcrunch wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 12:59 pm Don't forget TC Electronic. Although there is a comment on this video that is encouraging:

What’s the comment? At work can’t watch video now

kidslow · Post by **kidslow** » Sun May 21, 2023 6:21 pm

How about a wall of shame for the devs who still have not ported their entire catalog to M1, but yet have claimed they will, or have partially ported:

Audio Assault - some catalog is & some isn't. impossible to track.
Boz Digital Labs - worst communicator ever. slowwwww movement.
D16 - still 5 plugins that are not.
HoRNet - says they hired someone to clean up the remaining catalog. will see.
Nomad Factory - if they follow-through, at least they were honest when they posted EOY 2023 a year ago.
NUGEN Audio - seems like about half of their catalog is native, maybe more.
Psychic Modulation - 2 out of 5 are Silicon native.
U-he - Filterscape is eventually gonna beta, and then Uhbik maybe next year.
W.A. Production - list only changes if new plugins are added. no movement on back catalog. none likely.

Those are the ones I track, setting aside freeware, abandonware, and the devs who have stated they will not port or that a certain plugin is EOL.

machinesworking · Post by **machinesworking** » Mon May 22, 2023 2:38 am

glitch in the matrix

dayjob · Post by **dayjob** » Mon May 22, 2023 3:56 am

kidslow wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 6:21 pm
[*]U-he - Filterstation is eventually gonna beta, and then Uhbik maybe next year.

assuming you mean filterscape? beta seems to be not too far off based on Urs' comments and the teaser video from NAMM.

https://u-he.com/products/filterscape/

or is there some other filter plug in from u-he that i'm unaware of?

Urs has been pretty open about timelines for updates and what are the priorities etc.

"wall of shame" seems a bit dramatic overall. ymmv of course. first world problems etc.

kidslow · Post by **kidslow** » Mon May 22, 2023 4:41 am

dayjob wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 3:56 am
kidslow wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 6:21 pm
[*]U-he - Filterstation is eventually gonna beta, and then Uhbik maybe next year.

assuming you mean filterscape? beta seems to be not too far off based on Urs' comments and the teaser video from NAMM.

https://u-he.com/products/filterscape/

or is there some other filter plug in from u-he that i'm unaware of?

Urs has been pretty open about timelines for updates and what are the priorities etc.

"wall of shame" seems a bit dramatic overall. ymmv of course. first world problems etc.

Yeah I meant filterscape. D'oh. I had it right and then changed it because I had it noted wrong in one of my notes.

Hard to keep all these similar names the same sometimes. I'll believe it when I see it. Urs has been less than forthright about the actual timelines rather than the order that development will take place. I don't blame him for not putting dates to delivery, but let's call a spade a spade.

Wall of Shame is rhetorical, and sorry if you find it dramatic overall. It is a bit shameful.

Calagan · Post by **Calagan** » Mon May 22, 2023 5:31 am

12bitcrunch wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 12:59 pm Don't forget TC Electronic. Although there is a comment on this video that is encouraging:

I was very suprised, recently, to find they finally updated their LM2n level meter.
I love this plugin and was using it everywhere but it was not functionnal on my M1 pro running Monterey (even with Rosetta : it had GUI issues with Monterey too), and since TC Eletronics had been bought by Behringer, I was thinking they were abandonware.
They finally did the update in march.
I don't know about the rest of the catalogue, but it may be soon.

kurtg · Post by **kurtg** » Mon May 22, 2023 6:27 am

still waiting for air loom II

Thijs Felperlaan · Post by **Thijs Felperlaan** » Mon May 22, 2023 7:47 am

I'm waiting for AAX m1 native:
Air - Loom II, Riser. No indication at all on when (or if?) this will happen.
Audio Ease - Altiverb, 360pan suite. On the website they only say they are currently working on it..
Arturia Chorus - JUN-6, Filter MINI. Via e-mail they also only said 'currently working on this'
Izotope - Exponential Audio Stratus and Symphony, Imager 2. On the website they only say 'planned'
Krotos - Weaponiser, Igniter. Via e-mail they said 'in the next coming months'
Kush Audio - Clariphonics. No indication, although some beta's are slowly rolling out for other plugins.

If necessary I can run these in Blue Cat Patchwork, which works surprisingly well.
I find it more stable then Nugen Sigmod and it also does instruments and you can map automation.

machinesworking · Post by **machinesworking** » Mon May 22, 2023 2:44 pm

Some more laggards:

Audio Ease- as mentioned , but also Speakerphone. My guess is new versions, since the plug ins are all ten years old now, and they're working on ambisonic versions.

Air- IMO unlikely, they seem to be getting used by InMusic for embedded plug ins in the MPC software. Loom is a real let down here.

PSP- A few strays, N2O etc. probably newer versions like they've done with their Mix Suite.

VSL- they're working on it. VEP is in beta etc.

AlkyJames Labs - OBXtreme 2, it's one guy, but I'm hoping this happens sooner than later.

What makes me wonder is the odd ancillary software, like Uno Synth Pro's VST/AU plug in editor? when will IK etc. get around to things like that? It works now in Rosetta, but for how long?

Tracking Apple Silicon Native Hosts, Plugins, Effects